LOL. Too "lazy"? Do you then believe that all of the people in the US who aren't actively involved in politics are "too lazy" to do so? Are all of the people who aren't making millions of dollars a year "too lazy" to do so? Everyone has a threshold under which they will live. Working for maximum liberty has diminishing returns the closer we get to that goal. Not everyone is interested in spending much of their waking lives fighting for the cause when they already have the freedom to do just about anything they want that's not hurting others. Why you consider that lazy, I don't know - but I think it's just intellectual dishonesty on your part since you are just dropping from the list after initiating the debate.
-----Original Message----- From: Jim Syler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 7:52 PM To: Cory Nott Subject: Re: [Libertarian] Re: STOP EDITING MY POSTS!!! I am convinced that many of your NAP collegues would call such a stance--being willing to support an aggressive government because you're too lazy to fight it--unprincipled and un-libertarian. But it's your life. I'm done with the list anyhow. j On Mar 28, 2006, at 8:45 PM, Cory Nott wrote: Ok. I'll answer the question - I'm not saying it's not my fault - what I"m saying is that I don't feel the need to be involved directly in politics (I believe I made that distinction before.) One still has the power to vote and remain informed. These are very inexpensive measures, especially under a very limited government, and can be done in line with the NAP. Unless you want to be unreasonable, you'll have to accept that there can be a huge difference between tolerance and advocacy. Jim Syler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I've been "moderated," so I'm refusing to post to the list anymore. But I'll do you the courtesy of responding. On Mar 28, 2006, at 8:29 PM, Cory Nott wrote: > Jim Syler wrote: > On Mar 28, 200! 6, at 3:36 PM, Cory Nott wrote: > >>> I would not need to use aggression against others because there would >>> be no reason for me to be directly involved in politics. I believe >>> that most libertarians, at least those in support of the NAP, feel >>> the >>> same way. > >> Oh my goodness! You are honestly telling me that it's fine to >> advocate, >> work toward and pay for murder as long as you are not directly >> involved >> in the act of murdering? > > > You¡Çll have to point out to me how my paragraph in any way indicates > that I advocate murder or any other form of force. Am I advocating or > paying for or working toward the murder and destruction of people > because I buy goods from China? That would make about as much sense as > what you have suggested. I was using a metaphor. Obviously I wasn't clear enough. I didn't mean that you actually advocated murder, I was substituting "murder" for "aggressive government" in order to make my point more clear. My point is, how is it in any way moral to support, advocate and pay for aggressive government and then say "oh, *I*'m not a politician. It's not my fault"? > I note that you didn¡Çt answer my question as to where and how you > can draw a line as to how much aggression is just and/or moral. Did it > put you in a corner? Nope. I didn't answer because Terry and I were having the same discussion in another thread, so I didn't see the need. - -- "Whatever power such a being may have over me, there is one thing which he shall not do; he shall not compel me to worship him. I will call no being good who is not what I mean when I apply that epithet to my fellow creatures; and if such a being can sentence me to hell for not so calling him, to hell I will go." - --John Stuart Mill -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) Comment: Protect your email! Download PGP at . iD8DBQFEKfKEu57Eduk011URArZMAKCSAQhi8UzVYIFMrhRRnJWo0YDARwCdEH4g DP3mJjsOebVnwgG4dVpVlkk= =6RVp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- "Do not handicap your children by making their lives easy." --Robert Heinlein [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
