Main Entry: sub·ter·fuge 
Pronunciation: 's&b-t&r-"fyüj
Function: noun
Etymology: Late Latin subterfugium, from Latin subterfugere to 
escape, evade, from subter- secretly (from subter underneath; akin to 
Latin sub under) + fugere to flee -- more at UP, FUGITIVE

1 : deception by artifice or stratagem in order to conceal, escape, 
or evade

2 : a deceptive device or stratagem

at http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=subterfuge


UncoolRabbit, you're still evading the need to provide a genuine
response to a direct question to you: 

What cause justifies violating an innocent person's right to be free 
from YOU initiating, or doing a credible threat to initiate, physical 
force against their body and/or justly held possessions?  

Your expression of garbled logic below is not going to distract the 
smart folk in this forum; how about an answer dude...


-Terry Liberty Parker 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian 



--- In [email protected], "uncoolrabbit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> It's a rediculous statement, the problem is not getting me to admit 
> that it is as much. The problem, wich I am sure is not yours, is 
> getting Terry to admit that his is similarly rediculous. I doubt I 
> have the mastery of words to convince either of you of that. 
> 
> One who will accept some now, and work for more later, is not some 
> evil agressor bent on decieving and controlling you. They have a 
> valid point of view that all or nothing is not the best way. In 
> practice Terry might understand that, but his constant posting of 
> this little blurb is a constant assault and those with a different 
> point of view. In a very real way it is that inapropriate personal 
> attack that will get your posts moderated though terry is the 
> moderator. One who speaks a different point of view, becasue it is 
> there genuine point of view, and asks only to be heard, and does 
not 
> judge your differing point of view is NOT an agressor. The same can 
> not be said for one who would demonize he who thinks differently.
> 
> --- In [email protected], "mark robert" <colowe@> wrote:
> >
> > Assuming you are being serious, where is your evidence of
> > "violation" and "aggression" from those who "promote unlimited
> > Libertarianism"? If you can't provide any, at least supply a
> > theoretical example of what you are talking about. Or maybe you
> > didn't write that yourself? 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ************
> > {American jurors have complete Constitutional authority to vote
> > "not guilty" based on nothing more than a disagreement with the
> > case, no matter the evidence - despite the judge's instructions.
> > There is absolutely no obligation to vote "guilty" to arrive at a
> > unanimous verdict. Get on a jury, stand your ground, and fulfill
> > its other main purpose: to counteract abusive government and
> > unjust lawsuits.
> > See www.fija.org 
> > [Please adopt this as your own signature.] }
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   _____  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 'Freedom' to violate you and yours
> > is at the heart of UNLIMITED 'libertarianism'
> > 
> > In an apparent attempt to impose
> > the continuing philosophic idealogy
> > of extreem libertarianism, there is a push
> > to demonize the pragmatists who seek real change. 
> > Now that the comfortable obscurity of Libertariansm
> > has essentially fallen, the banner of 'liberty' becomes
> > a hijacking target of the 'consistant libertarians.'  Aggressors
> > who 
> > eagerly want to maintain that only they know what truely is
> > 'liberty'
> > with no 'exceptions' to what they want to see construed as THE
> > UNIVERSAL view of libertarianism.
> > 
> > 
> > Don't hate me Terry :)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   _____  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>






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