Now your post is confusing assembling (reproductive process) with
growth and maintaining (post-parturition process). Simple growth
does not a reproductive stage make; all reproductive processes
are growth, but all growth is not reproduction. Birth is a clear
line of demarcation when the organs and systems are sufficiently
developed to afford the goal of development: sufficient
autonomous functionality.
With regard to your comments on thresholds and qualitative vs
quantitative: Your posts are starting to show a pattern of
pro-lumping and anti-splitting. Your positions seem to depend of
eliminating certain lines and distinctions and specifics. Science
is more or less interested in the opposite: it likes to identify
thresholds (both qualitative AND quantitative) - and split and
explain and describe and define and label and classify. Your post
is getting warmer when it concedes that a threshold may be a
factor; that is precisely what it is all about: thresholds,
lines, classifications, etc.
-Mark
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Mark,
> You awake now?
Yep. Unfortunately, what you're saying makes no more sense than
it did
when I was still groggy.
If an organism isn't "whole" because it is in a process of
assembling
itself, then there is no such thing as a whole organism. You may
or
may not have noticed, but your own body is _continually_
assembling
itself -- growing hair, growing nails, manufacturing skin, etc.
There may be a qualitative threshold below which a human being is
not
a "person," but the difference with respect to being a "human
being"
between you and the zygote that you used to be is quantitative,
not
qualitative. You ARE that organism, just older and having done
more.
If it wasn't a "human being," neither are you.
Tom Knapp
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