No, I don't admit it as a matter of fact.

Take Leon Drolet.  I think even the most hardcore Libertarian Party 
of Michigan diehard would admit that Leon would be 100 times less 
effective in the MI House if he was elected as a Libertarian.

And btw, I notice you casually mention "a few advocates of libertarianism 
elected as Democrats..."  

Really???  Name some names.  Just who are these alleged 
elected "libertarianism advocating Democrats?

I've been imploring Tom Knapp and other advocates of libertarianism who are 
friendly with the Dems to just name one FOR MONTHS NOW.

The best they can come up with is some vague reference to some guy 
in South Carolina and another guy they heard about in South Dakota.  
Nobody could give me a name.

I'll give you one.  In fact, THE ONLY ELECTED LIBERTARIANISM ADVOCATING 
DEMOCRAT IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES:

Steven Villaincourt of New Hampshire.  First elected as a Dem to the 
NH House, then reelected as a Libertarian-Democrat (multi-party affiliation is 
ok in NH), then switched Parties to Republican.  But for one whole year, 
Villaincourt served as a Libertarian-Democrat.

He's it.  Nobody else.  Never has been, and never will be again.

KINDLY CEASE AND DESIST FROM CASUALLY MAKING MENTION THAT 
LIBERTARIANS CAN BE ELECTED AS DEMOCRATS AS WELL AS REPUBLICANS, in 
a feeble attempt at making it seem that both Dems and Repubs are 
equal as far as libertarianism is concerned.

One sees right through that silly little game.  








--- In [email protected], "steven  linnabary" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Dondero Rittberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Geez Steven, do you wish me to List every single elected 
libertarian
> Republican in the country every single time I comment on such
> matters?  I only mentioned Korhing, Leland, Drolet and McClintock
> cause they are the most prominent at the moment.
> 
> There's at least 20 to 30 others including Toby Nixon of Washington
> State (fmr. 20-year GA LP Member), Brinkman, of course in Ohio, Bob
> Hedlund in Massachusetts, a State Senator in Oregon, another in
> Montana who is an elected Republican yet serves as Secretary of the
> Montana Libertarian Party, at least 3 to 4 in the New Hampshire
> House including a close friend of the NH LP named Bif, one in
> Florida who is closely aligned with the FL RLC and is an Economist,
> two in the Texas House, 1 in PA, another one in Michigan besides
> Leon named Jack Brandenburg, State Sen. Dean Patterson in
> Arizona...  I could go on and on.  Sorry I can't recall all their
> names off the top of my head.
> *****
> Save your breath, Eric.  Nobody is arguing that there aren't some
> libertarians and quasi-libertarians within the republican party.  
Just as
> there are a few in the democrat party.
> 
> It is well established that it is far easier to be elected on the 
republican
> ticket as opposed to the Libertarian ticket.  I have seen friends 
run hard
> as Libertarians and get as much as 5% of the vote, then turn 
around the next
> year and run as a republican and win handily.  Both Greg Kaza in 
Michigan
> and Penn Pfiffner in Colorado did this (they are both now out of 
office due
> to term limits).  No argument there.
> 
> But while I am sure that both of them held true to their 
libertarian
> principles while in office, I have to wonder if the quartet that 
was elected
> as Libertarians in New Hampshire had more lasting effect.
> 
> SL
> ******
> 
> But it comes out to about 20 to 30 nationwide elected libertarian
> Republican State Legislators, most of whom have had some former
> affiliation or association with the Libertarian Party or are
> currently associated with the LP in some way.  And all having been
> elected under the Republican banner.
> *****
> And nearly all of them have to explain themselves when they 
diverge from the
> republican party line when it comes to refusing to "Blame America 
First".
> And I hold them in high esteem.
> 
> Almost as high as I hold the leaders of the Libertarian Party.
> 
> SL
> *****
> 
> And you don't consider Rohrabacher as a "libertarian?"
> 
> Interesting.  Very interesting.  ESPECIALLY SINCE HE IS THE FOUNDER
> OF THE MODERN LIBERTARIAN MOVEMENT!!!
> 
> Are you not aware that it was Dana himself who led the famous
> Libertarian Caucus of YAF in the late 1960s which spurned the
> formation of the Libertarian Party???!!!
> *****
> Yep.  And Karl Hess USED to be a socialist.  And Ronald Reagan 
USED to be
> communist.  And Hillary USED to be a "Goldwater Girl".
> 
> SL
> *****
> 
> Perhaps you missed the latest Liberty Index where Dana scored 
Number
> 3 right behind 1st place finisher Jeff Flake and 2nd place finisher
> Ron Paul.
> 
> Perhaps you are not aware that it was Dana himself who almost 
single-
> handidly carried water for the libertarian efforts in the 1990s to
> Abolish Selective Service.
> 
> Your ignorance on former Goldwater President Jeff Flake is not my
> problem.  You are obviously a victim of the libertarian propoganda
> machine that claims Ron Paul as a "fluke Republican", and ignores
> virtually all other libertarian Republican elected officials like
> Flake.
> ******
> 
>  I'll admit my ignorance of a few obscure republicans who happen 
to hold a
> few libertarian principles.
> 
> But I think you would have to admit, if you are being honest, that 
they
> would be more effective if elected as Libertarians.  That is, if 
they are
> truely libertarian on more than a couple of issues.
> 
> PEACE
> Steven R. Linnabary, Treasurer
> Franklin County Libertarian Party
> (614) 891-8841
> P.O.Box#115;  Blacklick, OH  43004-0115
> 
> "When you make peaceful revolution impossible, you make violent 
revolution
> inevitable"  John F. Kennedy
>










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