Point me to the country that attacked America. Iraq has never attacked America, and nothing you say claiming they were involved in Oklahoma is even remotely connected to the truth. Anything you mention about INDIVIDUALS attacking others is irrelevant. Unless you can prove a COUNTRY invaded or attacked American soil, you have no valid justificatino for war. Unless you can PROVE that Iraq dropped a bomb on Detroit, you have nothing.
There were no attacks on American soil. Merely being Muslim and killing someone does not count as an attack on American soil or justification for a war. The indisputable truth is Iraq never posed a danger to America, never invaded or attacked America, never helped anyone else attack America, and any actions the government of Iraq made to attack their surrounding nations or their own people are not a Constitutional justification for a war in Iraq. There isn't a single individual on earth who can support the war in Iraq as a libertarian action. --- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [ModeratorNote: the original attempt at posting religious hate mongering has here been ever so slightly re-edited to reflect the actual events more clearly in historical context. -TLP ] > > > > 19 violent retaliators killed nearly 3,000 Americans on US soil on Sept. 11, 2001. > > A few months later, another freaked out over USA sponsored aggression in the middle east tried to blow up a plane using bombs in his sneakers, over US Soil. > > A few months after that another crazed retaliator over USA interventionism in his homeland was caught planning to > blow up the Brooklyn Bridge. > > Then there was the agents of retaliation who fired on all the Airport visitors to LAX at the El Al Counter, killing 2, and injuring 6 others. > > Just last Friday, crazed over USA subsidized Israeli attacks in Lebanon, a middle easterner killed 1 and seriously injured 6 > others at a Jewish Community Center in Seattle. > > A few weeks ago, 7 persons were caught in Miami plotting to blow up > the Sears Tower building to show Americans how it feels to have 'outsiders' harm them in their own homeland. > > Geez Paul, if your standard is attacks on US Soil, fine. No > problem. We've reached that bar and crossed it 10 times over. > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Paul" <ptireland@> wrote: > > > > The correct, accurate, and real view of libertarians is that we are > > against starting wars for any reason, we're against all foreign > > interventionism, and we only support wars against those who > directly > > attack American land (any of the 50 states or American > territories). > > > > Anything anyone else says to the contrary is a lie. > > > > There is not a single libertarian on earth who supports the war in > Iraq. > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg" > > <ericdondero@> wrote: > > > > > > You got that half right. That's the reason I'm here, is to > ensure > > > that they don't get that wrong view of libertarianism; that it's > all > > > anti-War > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Paul" <ptireland@> wrote: > > > > > > > > If you weren't here what would they see? Actual libertarians > > > having > > > > intelligent discussions regarding actual liberty without > mixing in > > > the > > > > typical racism and bigotry you are so fond of. They'd see the > truth > > > > about Bush, the wholly unconstitutional war in Iraq, and > they'd see > > > > real libertarianism which is something you consistently work > > > against. > > > > In other words, they would have an accurate view of what it > means > > > to > > > > be a libertarian and it wouldn't be tainted by stupidity, > racism, > > > > nationalism, apologists for Bush's treason, and people > promoting > > > > tyranny while insulting and belittling real libertarians. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg" > > > > <ericdondero@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You should simply switch to "Read on Web Mode" like many of > us. > > > > > > > > > > I care very little if you read my posts. > > > > > > > > > > Why am I here? > > > > > > > > > > For one purpose and one purpose only. > > > > > > > > > > Newbies to the libertarian movement are very likely to type > in > > > the > > > > > words "Libertarian" into Yahoo Groups. > > > > > > > > > > If I was not here what would they see? > > > > > > > > > > A bunch of posts from people apologizing for Islamo-Fascism, > > > bashing > > > > > Bush 24/7, praising Leftists and Leftist ideology, and hating > > > > > America. > > > > > > > > > > That IS NOT what the libertarian movement I've been working > for > > > for > > > > > the last 22 years is about. And I don't want ANYONE ON YAHOO > > > > > getting the wrong impression about libertarianism. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Richard Shepard > > > > > <shepardelectionlaw@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Since I joined this group on 7/6 I have received about 560 > > > > > messages. Of those, 71 (or roughly 13%) were from Eric > Dondero > > > or > > > > > Eric Dondero Rittberg. Only Mr. Parker, the moderator, has > > > posted > > > > > more than Mr. Dondero. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr. Dondero, I have no doubt as to the depth of your > beliefs, > > > > > or, for that matter, your dedication to grass roots activism. > > > But I > > > > > frankly wonder whether you think much about the consequences > of > > > your > > > > > postings here. > > > > > > > > > > > > How much true agreement do you find in this group? > > > > > > > > > > > > How many converts to the Libertarian Republican Caucus > have > > > you > > > > > won? > > > > > > > > > > > > What is your purpose on this list? > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you see any use for the Libertarian Party except as > > > > > a "spoiler" to the Republican Party or as a repository for > wing- > > > nuts? > > > > > > > > > > > > In short, tell me why I should not block all future > messages > > > > > from you. > > > > > > > > > > > > Richard Shepard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > Yahoo! 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