----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul T. Ireland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Harland, > > Whether or not you believe in a lie doesn't make it any less a lie. The > so-called "Palestinian" people (Jordanians and other arabs) did not own a > single speck of land before 1947. This is a fact, not an opinion. > > I can go down to Kinkos and print up a deed in a minute. It would give me > the same amount of ownership in land the so-called "Palestinians" had. > Also, any deeds issued by the Turkish government when the Ottoman Empire > owned things because worthless when the British Empire took ownership of the > land. Not that the Ottoman empire issued deeds. As far as I know they > considered all land under their control to be owned by the Empire. > > As for the American Indians, no they didn't own land either, and never had > land stolen from them. They didn't even believe in the concept of land > ownership. They thought the land owned us, not the other way around. They > never had any claim to the land. > > The Palestinians have as much right to Israel as I have to walk into a BMW > dealership and drive off without giving them a penny. > And Zionists have a right to this land because of? Ancient Biblical history? Descendants of the Biblical Jews may have a claim to somew of the land, but so would the descendants of the Phillistines (in English, the Palestinians). The Native Americans didn't claim a western style land "ownership", but still owned their land. But they did do a "western" (and inter-cultural) style land ownership thing called DEFENDING their land. The fact they had no county clerk issued deed is irrelevant. But you are right in the sense that Native Americans found the concept of individual land ownership to be unimaginable, like owning "air". Most Muslim countries do recognize land ownership, with a quirk. In many Muslim countries you may own property as long as you are physically using it. The Mosque will hold unused property in trust for future generations. This is why there are few, if any, large land owners (other than the Mosque) in Muslim countries. This is also why it is rare for entire families to take the Hajj together (and explains a dependence on clans), as a family would not want to leave for a length of time only to find new inhabitants of their home upon their return. Like it or not, it IS land ownership, though different from the Anglo model used in MOST of the USA (Louisiana uses a Franco land ownership model). There are several other models of land ownership used in various parts of the world. None is perfect, though I am most comfortable with the common one used here. PEACE Steven R. Linnabary, Treasurer Franklin County Libertarian Party (614) 891-8841 P.O.Box#115; Blacklick, OH 43004-0115 "When you make peaceful revolution impossible, you make violent revolution inevitable" John F. Kennedy ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
