The National Libertarian Party has abandoned the List that Paul is 
referring to here.  It was loaded with inaccuracies.  And contrary 
to Paul's insistence, many of the individuals were indeed 
Republicans.  

They are working on a new one, but it's nowheres close to 600.  


--- In [email protected], "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The 600 are all libertarians who ran as libertarians under the LP
> banner.  
> 
> The RLC has never gotten anyone elected to any position.  Not even 
dog
> catcher.
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg"
> <ericdondero@> wrote:
> >
> > Hey, does that "600" List include Don Gorman up in New Hampshire 
who 
> > was elected on both the Libertarian and Republican lines?  
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "Paul" <ptireland@> wrote:
> > >
> > > The RLC hs never gotten a single person elected to office, 
> > libertarian
> > > or otherwise; not one.  Also, the Republican party has no 
> > libertarians
> > > in it and that includes Ron Paul.
> > > 
> > > The Libertarian Party on the other hand has gotten over 600
> > > libertarians elected.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg"
> > > <ericdondero@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Outstanding question Matt.  And welcome to our Forum.  
> > > > 
> > > > Here's my thoughts on the matter.
> > > > 
> > > > I think there was a groundswell of support for libertarian 
> > ideals in 
> > > > the late 1970s and early 1980s.  This all culminated in the 
> > highly 
> > > > successful Ed Clark, Libertarian for President Campaign in 
1980 
> > (and 
> > > > to a lesser extent Ron Paul's LP Presidential Campaign in 
> > 1988).  It 
> > > > also resulted in 3 Libertarians being elected to the Alaska 
> > > > Legislature, and scores of Libertarians winning nationwide 
for 
> > local 
> > > > offices.
> > > > 
> > > > Since then. the Libertarian Party has experienced a serious 
> > decline 
> > > > in electoral victories and Presidential vote totals.  
> > > > 
> > > > In 1990, Libertarian Party members started joining the GOP, 
and 
> > > > formed the Republican Liberty Caucus.
> > > > 
> > > > Since then, virtually all of the major libertarian electoral 
> > > > victories have been a result of the RLC, not the LP.
> > > > 
> > > > The LP's decline has seriously hurt the Liberty Movement.  I 
> > don't 
> > > > see a "libertarian groundswell" out there any more like 
there 
> > was in 
> > > > the '80s.
> > > > 
> > > > The RLC has been only partially successful.  It has 
succeeded in 
> > > > getting libertarians elected to office in a spotty fashion; 
1 
> > guy in 
> > > > Maine, another guy in Alaska, 2 guys down in Texas, 2 guys 
in 
> > > > Colorado, and so on.
> > > > 
> > > > The RLC has not succeeded in electing enough libertarians to 
> > make a 
> > > > difference.  It's more like "Oh ya, that odd libertarian guy 
we 
> > have 
> > > > in our GOP Caucus here in the 'Pick-your-State' 
Legislature..."
> > > > 
> > > > Unless libertarians of all stripes get super-serious about 
> > politics 
> > > > and trade in the on-line blogging and LP supper club monthly 
> > > > meetings for precinct walking, sign waving, phone banks, and 
> > > > fundraising for RLC-backed candidates, we are never going to 
> > succeed.
> > > > 
> > > > The entire libertarian movement, both LP and RLC, needs to 
> > transform 
> > > > itself into a libertarian version of the Club for Growth.  
> > > > 
> > > > I invite you to check out my web site which advocates this 
> > approach:
> > > > 
> > > > www.mainstreamlibertarian.com
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In [email protected], "matthew_reider" 
> > > > <matthew_reider@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Full disclosure: I am neither a libertarian nor a fan of 
> > > > unregulated
> > > > > capitalism.  But I am earnest in trying to figure out where
> > > > > Libertarians stand - and I am not here to pick a fight.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It seems like the Libertarian argument has gained some 
> > strength in 
> > > > the
> > > > > last decade or more.  This correlates to the strength of 
the 
> > fiscal
> > > > > conservative viewpoint and republican success over 
Democrats in
> > > > > representative government.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It is my belief that these trends have much to do with one 
> > another 
> > > > and
> > > > > that Republicans have done a good job of co-opting the 
> > Libertarian
> > > > > agenda while not following that agenda whatsoever.  Reagan 
was 
> > the
> > > > > first in a line of contemporary republicans who appealed 
to the
> > > > > public's sense  of paranoia about "big government" and 
started 
> > what
> > > > > became a twenty-five year republican mission to dismantle 
many 
> > of 
> > > > the
> > > > > federally funded social programs established by Reagan's 
> > > > predecessors.
> > > > > 
> > > > > My question to the group looks something like this:  Do 
you 
> > > > generally
> > > > > agree that Libertarian ideology has helped to elect people 
> > like 
> > > > George
> > > > > W. Bush to the white house and, if so, do you find this 
> > troubling?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks for considering my question!
> > > > > 
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Matt
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>









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