[ModeratorNote: 

Violent authoritarians hi-jack religion, among other things, to use as a 
pretext for their aggressions.  It's outrageous for some to ascribe to ALL 
people of a religion, the transgressions performed in their name by a few.  
 
Bigotry is sustained by dwelling upon morsels of info that seem to support 
biased views while suppressing awareness of that which may contervale the 
prejudice. 


MoreAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TerryLiberty/message/319  


-TLP  ]




David Macko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Obviously, there are some people whose hatred for America, based on the 
> mistaken
> belief that the American people actually control or influence "our" 
> government, cannot
> be quenched even if we did perform the necessary activities to stop World War 
> III,
> 1. bring all American troops home 2. stop all foreign aid and 3. hang Bush 
> and the
> Project for a New American Century gang of Zionist neocon warmongering maniacs
> for treason to show that we are sincerely sorry for "our" war crimes.
> However, if we do take these necessary steps to recapture "our" government and
> restore liberty, we will cease the recruitment of thousands more such enemies 
> which
> "our" foreign policy causes every day and, hopefully, prevent the world from 
> entering
> an era so nasty that those of us who survive will actually consider the 
> present as the
> "good old days".

tell that to his women, obviously a victim of US foreign policy:

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,344374-2,00.html

THE DEATH OF A MUSLIM WOMAN

"The Whore Lived Like a German"

By Jody K. Biehl in Berlin

In the past four months, six Muslim women living in Berlin have been
brutally murdered by family members. Their crime? Trying to break free
and live Western lifestyles. Within their communities, the killers are
revered as heroes for preserving their family dignity. How can such a
horrific and shockingly archaic practice be flourishing in the heart of
Europe? The deaths have sparked momentary outrage, but will they change
the grim reality for Muslim women?

 
 Polizei Berlin
 Hatin Surucu just wanted to live her own life. Instead, she became
 Berlin's latest victim of honor killings. Her Turkish Muslim brothers
 allegedly gunned her down for adopting Western ways. 
 The shots came from nowhere and within minutes the young Turkish mother
 standing at the Berlin bus stop was dead. A telephone call from a
 relative had brought her to this cold, unforgiving place. She thought
 she would only be gone for a few minutes and wore a light jacket in the
 freezing February wind. She had left her five-year-old son asleep in
 his bed. He awoke looking for his mother, who, like many Turkish women
 in Germany, harbored a secret life of fear, courage and, ultimately,
 grief. Now her little boy has his own tragedy to bear: His mother,
 Hatin Surucu, was not the victim of random violence, but likely died at
 the hands of her own family in what is known as an "honor killing." 

 Hatin's crime, it appears, was the desire to lead a normal life in her
 family's adopted land. The vivacious 23-year-old beauty, who was raised
 in Berlin, divorced the Turkish cousin she was forced to marry at age
 16. She also discarded her Islamic head scarf, enrolled in a technical
 school where she was training to become an electrician and began dating
 German men. For her family, such behavior represented the ultimate
 shame -- the embrace of "corrupt" Western ways. Days after the crime,
 police arrested her three brothers, ages 25, 24 and 18. The youngest of
 the three allegedly bragged to his girlfriend about the Feb. 7 killing.
 At her funeral, Hakin's Turkish-Kurdish parents draped their only
 daughter's casket in verses from the Koran and buried her according to
 Muslim tradition. Absent of course, were the brothers, who were in
 jail. 

 The crime might be easier to digest if it had been an archaic anomaly,
 but five other Muslim women have been murdered in Berlin during the
 past four months by their husbands or partners for besmirching the
 family's Muslim honor. Two of them were stabbed to death in front of
 their young children, one was shot, one strangled and a fifth drowned.
 It seems hard to fathom, but in the middle of democratic Western Europe
 -- in Germany, a nation where pacifism is almost a universal mantra --
 murderous macho patriotism not only exists but also appears to be
 thriving. It may even be Germany's liberalism -- and its post World War
 II fear of criticizing minority cultures -- that has encouraged
 ultra-religious families to settle here. 

 The problem is that much of this insular and ultra-religious world is
 out of public view, often hidden in inner-city apartments where the
 most influential links to the outside world are satellite dishes that
 receive Turkish and Arabic television and the local mosque. Tens of
 thousands of Turkish women live behind these walls of silence, in homes
 run by husbands many met on their wedding day and ruled by the
 ever-present verses of the Koran. In these families, loyalty and honor
 are elevated virtues and women are treated little better than slaves,
 unseen by society and often unnoticed or ignored by their German
 neighbors. To get what they want, these women have to run. They have to
 change their names, their passports, even their hair color and break
 with the families they often love, but simply can no longer obey. 
e statistics on how many women die every year in such honor killings are
hard to come by, as many crimes are never reported, said Myria Boehmecke
of the Tuebingen-based women's group Terre des Femmes which, among other
things, tries to protect Muslim girls and women from oppressive
families. The Turkish women's organization Papatya has documented 40
instances of honor killings in Germany since 1996. Examples include a
Darmstadt girl whose two brothers pummelled her to death with a hockey
stick in April 2004 after they learned she had slept with her boyfriend.
In Augsburg in April, a man stabbed his wife and 7-year-old daughter
because the wife was having an affair. In December 2003, a Tuebingen
father strangled his 16-year-old daughter and threw her body into a lake
because she had a boyfriend. Bullets, knives, even axes and gasoline are
the weapons of choice. The crime list compiled by Papatya is an exercise
in horror. And the sad part, said Boehmecke, is that it is far from
complete. "We'll never really know how many victims there are. Too often
these crimes go unreported." 

In many cases, fathers -- and sometimes even mothers -- single out their
youngest son to do the killing, Boehmecke said, "because they know
minors will get lighter sentences from German judges." In some cases,
these boys are revered by their community and fellow inmates as "honor
heroes" -- a dementedly skewed status they carry with them for the rest
of their lives. Currently, six boys are serving time in Berlin's
juvenile prison for honor killings. "In a way, these boys are victims,
too," she said. Sometimes they are forced to kill their favorite sister.

One of the unsettling truths about Hatin's death and the plight of many
Muslim women is that it took the comments of three Turkish boys and the
outrage of a male school director to get people to notice. When the
murder first happened, it sent no shock waves through the mainstream
German press. It only became big news when a group of 14-year-old
Turkish boys mocked Hatin during a class discussion at a school near the
crime scene. One boy said, "She only had herself to blame," while
another insisted, "She deserved what she got. The whore lived like a
German." The enraged school director not only sent a letter home to
parents, but also to teachers across Germany. The letter ignited a media
fury. Less known, however, is that the letter also hit a nerve among
educators. "Teachers from across the country wrote back saying they had
had similar experiences," Boehmecke said. They reported Turkish boys
taunting Turkish girls who don't wear headscarves as "German sluts."
"That's the part no one has written about. Clearly there is huge
potential for similar violence across Germany," Boehmecke said. "Not
just in the big cities, but all over. It's a problem many politicians
haven't been willing to face."

But that is not entirely true. Following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks
and the revelation that several of the 9-11 plotters lived hidden lives
in the up-scale German city of Hamburg, politicians and everyday Germans
have more closely scrutinized the private lives of their friendly
Turkish grocers, housecleaners, taxi drivers and even colleagues. At the
same time, religious Muslims tightened their ranks, becoming more
protective of each other in a world increasingly fearful of and hostile
toward Islam. 

German legislators, for their part, began rethinking the traditional
delicacy with which the nation has handled its immigrants. For decades,
German legislators lived under the shadow of the country's Third Reich
past and the fear of appearing racist if it singled out a particular
community or religion for scrutiny or special treatment. 

"People were afraid they would be called Nazis if they dared to bring up
issues of human rights in the Turkish community," said Serap Cileli, a
Turkish author and filmmaker who at 15 was forced into an arranged
marriage.

When Cileli fell in love with another Turkish man and threatened to
break free, her mother came to Turkey, kidnapped her two children and
took them to Germany. She then gave Cileli an ultimatum: give up the
lover or never see the kids again. At first Cileli chose the kids and a
life in Germany. But unlike many other stories, hers has a happy ending
-- the lover later followed her to Germany and, after an enormous
struggle with her family, the pair married and now live together with
her children. She has written prodigiously about her experiences and now
helps Turkish women escape oppressive families.

For the greater part of a decade, however, Cileli was unable to find a
publisher for her work. "Everything I wrote from 1994 to 1999 was
rejected, even by newspapers," she said. "They told me I was writing
about a minority issue and they were afraid of appearing racist." That
changed following Sept. 11, she said, when suddenly the hidden lives of
Muslims became a hot topic and her writing and views are now widely
published and even translated into her native Turkish.

Last year, a virtual tectonic shift occurred when Germany -- long
considered a Mecca of religious tolerance by Muslims -- took its first
step toward enforced secularism. Five of the nation's 16 states voted to
ban teachers and other public officials from wearing headscarves to
work. In October, after much lobbying, Turkish women's groups scored a
coup when the government passed a law making it illegal for parents to
force their children to marry. Turkey, a secular Muslim state, has long
had such a law. 

The November murder in neighboring Holland of filmmaker Theo van Gogh --
who was shot and stabbed to death by an Islamic extremist angry over his
depiction of the violence inflicted on Muslim women in forced marriages
-- galvanized the Netherlands and sent shock waves across Europe. As a
result, Germans, too, began to take a second look at the 3.2 million
immigrants -- 2.5 million of whom are Turkish -- living among them and
to talk about the serious flaws of the nation's 1960's immigration
policies. The program brought thousands of Turkish workers to Germany,
but provided no real means of integrating the Muslim Turks or helping
them understand Western concepts like individualism, human rights and
equality. Now, Cileli said, perhaps, honor killings and other horrors
experienced by Muslim women will finally be given the scrutiny they have
long deserved.

The new laws are a vital step toward empowerment, said Cileli, but
unfortunately, the corpses of disobedient women offer a more compelling
reason for many young women to stay put. Plus, she said, laws don't take
into account the psychological terror under which the women live. "These
girls are frightened for their lives," she said. "If they do manage to
get away, it would be an illusion to say the girls would run to the
police." Besides, laws only cover civil marriages -- not religious ones.
In many cases, families force their young daughters into Muslim weddings
at very young ages (sometimes as early as 12 years old) and then only
unite the couple civilly when the girls turn 18. 

Though subtle, evidence of the seclusion in which religious Muslim women
live in Germany abounds. Turkish tea rooms are often packed with men,
while women are often at home caring for children. They rarely can be
seen on the streets alone after dark. At a memorial vigil held a few
weeks after Hatin's death, a mere 120 people showed up. Almost none were
Turkish. In fact, most were from a lesbian and gay organization that --
outraged by the crime -- organized the make-shift ceremony.

The ceremony underscored another disturbing reality: It is often not the
Muslim community that first expresses outrage over how its women live,
but those on the outside. "It's often very frustrating for us that more
doesn't come from within," Boehmecke said. "We've been trying to bring
attention to the plight of women for years, but with little success."
Cileli sees it in harsher terms. "It not only took the death of a white
man" for people to prick up their ears, she said, but of a "white
European" man (van Gogh). "A European was killed because he defended us
-- and the world press stood up to listen. But how many women died
before him?" 

A statistical black hole


 
 Astonishingly, the first extensive data the German government collected
 about the lives of Turkish women was published last summer, as part of
 a study done by the Ministry for Family Affairs. The study showed that
 49 percent of Turkish women said they had experienced physical or
 sexual violence in their marriage. One fourth of those married to
 Turkish husbands said they met their grooms on their wedding day. Half
 said they were pressured to marry partners selected by relatives and 17
 percent felt forced into such partnerships. 

 So far, the Turkish community has been sluggish in its response to such
 data and even to the question of honor killings. But last week -- about
 three weeks after Hatin's death and under heavy pressure from activists
 -- the Turkish Association of Berlin and Brandenburg held a round table
 discussion about the plight of Muslim women. At the talks, the group
 issued a 10-point plan calling for a "zero tolerance" stance on
 violence against women and encouraged other Turkish and Islamic
 organizations to "actively recognize" and address the problem.

 Will it help? Because the group is secular, it will likely have little
 sway with deeply religious Turks. "The truth is, we can't reach those
 who aren't interested," the group's spokesman, Cumali Kangal, conceded.

 The response among Germany's devout Muslims is equally tough to gauge
 as there is no single organization the community looks to for
 leadership. Instead, the community is divided into about three dozen
 groups, each with its own leadership. Ali Kizilkaya, the chairman of
 the Council of Islam, one of the largest umbrella organizations, has
 decried Hatin's murder as "an abuse and affront to the Muslim
 religion." He insists Islam does not condone honor killings.

 But try telling that, said Boehmecke, to the hoards of young boys who
 taunt Turkish girls in schools and their families who tacitly encourage
 such behavior. Educators at the grassroots say their numbers are
 rising, she says. Indeed, the German weekly Die Zeit reports that the
 percent of schoolgirls wearing headscarves in the Berlin district where
 Hatin was killed has gone from virtually none to about 40 percent in
 the past three years. Which one of today's smiling schoolgirls,
 Boehmecke wonders, will be next year's victim of honor? 





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