Not to mention Halliburton.

For life and liberty,
David Macko

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: kiddleddee 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 1:43 PM
  Subject: nazies Re: [Libertarian] Re: The Big Lie About 'Islamic Fascism' by 
Eric Margolis


  "Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it 
  is a merger of state and corporate power" - Benito Mussolini

  "capitalists had worked their way to the top through their capacity, 
  and on the basis of this selection they have the right to lead." - 
  Adolph Hitler. Can you say Krupp or Speer? For that matter, can you 
  say Harriman and Walker?

  I never said that they didn't share a socialist philosophy (of sorts) 
  with the communists. I was answering your request for examples of 
  fascists who allied themselves to the military-industrial complex.

  --- In [email protected], Vic Cinc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  >
  > kiddleddee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  > > --- In [email protected], Deus Ex Machina <vicc@> wrote:
  > > >
  > > > Victor Bozzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  > > > > Hello All,
  > > > > 
  > > > > Probably one of the best columns I have read to date exposing 
  the 
  > > lie of 'Islamic Fascism'.
  > > > > 
  > > > > If the truth be told the real Fascists reside in Washington.
  > > > > 
  > > > > Here is a quote from the piece which pretty much describes 
  our 
  > > current Government to a T:
  > > > > 
  > > > > "Fascism demands a succession of wars, foreign conquests, and 
  > > national threats to keep the nation in a state of fear, anxiety 
  and 
  > > patriotic hypertension. Those who disagree are branded 
  ideological 
  > > traitors. All successful fascists regimes, Paxton points out, 
  allied 
  > > themselves to traditional conservative parties, and to the 
  military-
  > > industrial complex." 
  > > > 
  > > > this is not true. fascist have in the last century emerged from 
  > > socialists. please
  > > > provide an example to back this claim up.
  > > > 
  > > > 
  > > > Vic
  > > 
  __________________________________________________________
  > > 
  > > 2 quick examples come to mind: Hitler's Nazi regime in Germany 
  and 
  > > Mussolini's fascist regime in Italy.
  > 
  > !?!?!?!?!?! <blank stare>
  > 
  > did you read what I wrote? do you just parrot left wing propaganda? 
  do
  > you do your own research?
  > 
  > the nazies are the national *socialist* workers party of germany. 
  the
  > nazies like the italian facists evolved from the trade union 
  movement.
  > 
  > there was nothing ever right wing about the nazies or italian 
  fascists.
  > 
  > the nazies where national socialist and the soviets where
  > international socialist. musollini was a socialist and then evolved 
  into
  > an out and out nationalist totalitarian. both despised the soviets 
  as inferior types of socialists.
  > the nazies believed in the superiority of the arian race and its 
  rightful
  > place as master of the universe.
  > 
  > here are some quotes for you to ponder
  > 
  > 
  > "We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic 
  system
  > for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair 
  salaries,
  > with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth 
  and
  > property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all
  > determined to destroy this system under all conditions." 
  > Adolf Hitler 1927
  > 
  > 
  > "We are socialists because we see in socialism, that is the union 
  of all
  > citizens, the only chance to maintain our racial inheritance and to 
  regain
  > our political freedom and renew our German state." Goebbels 1933
  > 
  > 
  > "Because we are socialists we have felt the deepest blessings of the
  > nation, and because we are nationalists we want to promote 
  socialist justice
  > in a new Germany." Joseph Goebbels 1932
  > 
  > "The sin of liberal thinking was to overlook socialism's nation-
  building
  > strengths, thereby allowing its energies to go in anti-national 
  directions.
  > The sin of Marxism was to degrade socialism into a question of 
  wages and
  > the stomach, putting it in conflict with the state and its national
  > existence. An understanding of both these facts leads us to a new 
  sense
  > of socialism, which sees its nature as nationalistic, state-
  building,
  > liberating and constructive." Joseph Goebbels 1933
  >



   

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