The famous 'clothing optional' Apartment Complex located in Austin,
Texas that started in 1976 and ran for many years was actually an
experiment in LIBERTARIAN community; complete
with 'physical aggression truce' as part of the lease,
though almost nobody there regarded themselves as either a 'nudist'
or even 'libertarian' in any formal sense.


PleaseSee:

'Real world' experiment in LIBERTARIAN community became famous
MoreAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LibertyProspects/message/2569


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--- In [email protected], "Eric Dondero Rittberg" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hey Terr, you've been around for a while in the Libertarian Party 
and 
> libertarian movement.
> 
> Remember back in the 1980s?  My recollection is that the 
Libertarian 
> Party and the overall libertarian movement was a heluva lot more 
> mainstream during the Ed Clark/Ed Crane era than it is today.
> 
> Lots of LP pamphlets touting "Libertarians are Fiscally 
> Conservative/socially tolerant" and bumper stickers that 
> proclaimed "Libertarians are Pro-Choice on Everything."  And Ed 
Clark 
> saying that we were essentially "Low Tax Liberals."
> 
> Now you are redefining libertarianism to make it seem that it's 
only 
> for the extremist Radical Caucus/Justin Raimondo version of 
> libertarianism.  
> 
> Sorry Terry, but the Libertarian Party I joined in 1985 was a 
> mainstream Libertarian Party.  Dianne Pilcher and Nick Dunbar, when 
> they recruited me straight out of the Navy, told me 
> that "Libertarians were basically Pro-Choice Conservatives."
> 
> Stop rewriting history.  
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Terry L Parker" <txliberty@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > 'Freedom' to violate you and yours 
> > is at the heart of LIMITED 'libertarianism'  
> > 
> > In an apparent attempt to usurp 
> > the continuing philosophic triumph 
> > of libertarianism, there is a push 
> > to re-define the word to accommodate 
> > political expediency.  Now that the 
> > prevailing other 'isms' have essentially 
> > fallen, the banner of 'liberty' becomes 
> > a hijacking target.  Aggressors eagerly 
> > want to use its 'appeal' as camouflage 
> > for 'exceptions' they want to the 
> > UNIVERSALITY of actual consistent libertarianism.   
> > 
> > CONSISTENCY to society's 'physical aggression truce' 
> > (aka NAP 'non aggression principle' ZAP 'zero aggression 
> > principle' and so on) is not just an essential 
> > LIBERTARIAN principle, it is the foundation for 
> > liberty and justice for ALL!  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "Terry L Parker" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > An underlying principle in human action 
> > > is an innate `physical aggression truce'
> > > which is also the underlying principle 
> > > for UNIVERSAL libertarianism.  
> > > 
> > > PleaseSee: What's at the Heart of What Libertarians are Selling?
> > > at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/30419
> > >  
> > > 
> > > This truce gives each person's 
> > > `self-ownership' (exclusive right 
> > > to determine use and disposition) 
> > > an essential material protection. 
> > > That can also be phrased as: 
> > > Reciprocal Physical Comprehensive Autonomy for each person.
> > > 
> > > AlsoSee FlashAnimationAt- 
> > > http://www.isil.org/resources/introduction.html
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Universal liberty's underlying 'physical aggression truce' 
> > > principle (aka NAP/ZAP and so on) thus accommodates 
> > > a just and broad array of choices by `self owning' 
> > > free moral agents, except for the INITIATION, 
> > > or CREDIBLE threat of initiation, of PHYSICAL force 
> > > against the person or justly held possessions 
> > > of another   
> > > 
> > > see: Your Freedom & the Rights of Others
> > > at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/22990
> > > 
> > > 
> > > So, what would morally justify a person INITIATING, 
> > > or doing a credible threat to initiate, physical force 
> > > against the person or justly held possessions of another; 
> > > AND, why should this `truce' EXCEPTION be allowable 
> > > over the truce exceptions that may be wanted by someone else?
> > > 
> > > Why would any truce violation be justified?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -Terry Liberty Parker 
> > > 'Real world' experiment in LIBERTARIAN community became famous
> > > at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LibertyProspects/message/2569 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], "Terry L Parker" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Without consistency to a 'physical agression truce' the 
common 
> > > ground 
> > > > for 'liberty & justice for all' in the material world just 
> > > vanishes!  
> > > > 
> > > > While MOST people, MOST of the time, on MOST issues, 
> consciously 
> > or 
> > > > not, will abide by this 'truce' many seek 'exceptions' for 
> their 
> > > own 
> > > > causes.  So, they will claim that such a 'commonality' 
doesn't 
> > > exist; 
> > > > and that those who say otherwise are being absurd.  Of 
course, 
> > > > people, including these 'exceptors' would NOT be able to walk 
> out 
> > > > their door each day if there was no effective physical 
> aggression 
> > > > truce already working.  But, that observation seems not to 
> > disuade 
> > > > these exceptors from attempting to con other people about the 
> > > > matter.    
> > > > 
> > > > The truth is, that it is CONSISTENCY to this 'physical 
> aggression 
> > > > truce' (aka NAP 'non aggression principle, ZAP 'zero 
aggression 
> > > > principle' and so on) which protects the 'self-ownership' 
> > autonomy 
> > > of 
> > > > virtually all persons.  Most people DO seem to inherently 
> > > understand 
> > > > and usually apply the needed reciprocity; even if they don't 
> know 
> > > how 
> > > > to spell that word, let alone consciously define it.  This, 
in 
> > > fact, 
> > > > is the underlying principle for UNIVERSAL libertarianism; 
> > > > aka 'liberty & justice for ALL'  
> > > > 
> > > > So, a question to would be 'exceptors' is: what makes you 
think 
> > you 
> > > > have the right to initiate, or do a credible threat to 
> initiate, 
> > > > physical force against the person or justly held possessions 
of 
> > > > another?  
> > > > 
> > > > PleaseSee: What's at the Heart of What Libertarians are 
Selling?
> > > > at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/30419  
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > --- In [email protected], "Terry L Parker" 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Imagine, if most can be persuaded to adhere to the 
> libertarian 
> > > > > principle of a physical aggression truce, while some 
> > (being 'more 
> > > > > equal than others') can make exceptions for their cause
(s)...
> > > > > 
> > > > > oops!  That is NOT consistent to a universal 
libertarianism.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > see: Your Freedom and the Rights of Others
> > > > > at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/22990  
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "Terry L Parker" 
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The ONE common point of aggreement that is essential for 
> > MUTUAL 
> > > > > > benefit by individuals interacting, is a 'truce' on 
> > aggressing 
> > > > > > physically upon each other; aka universal 
libertarianism.  
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > see this about the Dandelion for graphic illustration of 
a 
> > > > singular 
> > > > > > point from which much can diverge (extrapolate?)  
> > > > > > at http://www.smm.org/sln/tf/d/dandelion/dandelion.html  
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Terry L Parker" 
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > CONSISTENT LIBERTARIANISM: 
> > > > > > > Reciprocal Physical Comprehensive Autonomy of Each 
Person 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thoughtful observation demonstrates 
> > > > > > > that the principle of a 'physical aggression truce' 
> > > > > > > between individuals as a means of all 
> > > > > > > MUTUALLY benefiting from interactions 
> > > > > > > is older, and more prevalent, than the human race; 
> > > > > > > it is inherent to social species!  
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > from Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary http://m-w.com/ 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Main Entry: con·sis·tent 
> > > > > > > Pronunciation: k&n-'sis-t&nt
> > > > > > > Function: adjective
> > > > > > > Etymology: Latin consistent-, consistens, present 
> > participle 
> > > of 
> > > > > > consistere
> > > > > > > 1 archaic : possessing firmness or coherence
> > > > > > > 2 a : marked by harmony, regularity, or steady 
> continuity : 
> > > > free 
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > variation or contradiction <a consistent style in 
> painting> 
> > > > > > > b : COMPATIBLE -- usually used with with 
> > > > > > > c : showing steady conformity to character, profession, 
> > > belief, 
> > > > > or 
> > > > > > custom <a
> > > > > > > consistent patriot>
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Main Entry: lib·er·tar·i·an 
> > > > > > > Pronunciation: "li-b&r-'ter-E-&n
> > > > > > > Function: noun
> > > > > > > 1 : an advocate of the doctrine of free will
> > > > > > > 2 a : a person who upholds the principles of absolute 
and 
> > > > > > unrestricted
> > > > > > > liberty especially of thought and action 
> > > > > > > b capitalized : a member of a political party 
advocating 
> > > > > libertarian
> > > > > > > principles
> > > > > > > - libertarian adjective
> > > > > > > - lib·er·tar·i·an·ism  /-E-&-"ni-z&m/ noun
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Main Entry: 1re·cip·ro·cal 
> > > > > > > Pronunciation: ri-'si-pr&-k&l
> > > > > > > Function: adjective
> > > > > > > Etymology: Latin reciprocus returning the same way, 
> > > alternating
> > > > > > > 1 : inversely related : OPPOSITE 
> > > > > > > 2 : shared, felt, or shown by both sides
> > > > > > > 3 : serving to reciprocate : consisting of or 
functioning 
> > as 
> > > a 
> > > > > > return in
> > > > > > > kind <the reciprocal devastation of nuclear war>
> > > > > > > 4 a : mutually corresponding <agreed to extend 
reciprocal 
> > > > > > privileges to each
> > > > > > > other's citizens> 
> > > > > > > b : marked by or based on reciprocity <reciprocal trade 
> > > > > agreements>
> > > > > > > - re·cip·ro·cal·ly  /-k(&-)lE/ adverb   
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Main Entry: 1phys·i·cal 
> > > > > > > Pronunciation: 'fi-zi-k&l
> > > > > > > Function: adjective
> > > > > > > Etymology: Middle English phisicale medical, from 
> Medieval 
> > > > Latin 
> > > > > > physicalis,
> > > > > > > from Latin physica
> > > > > > > 1 : having material existence : perceptible especially 
> > > through 
> > > > > the 
> > > > > > senses
> > > > > > > and subject to the laws of nature <everything physical 
is 
> > > > > > measurable by
> > > > > > > weight, motion, and resistance -- Thomas De Quincey> 
b : 
> of 
> > > or 
> > > > > > relating to
> > > > > > > material things
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Main Entry: com·pre·hen·sive 
> > > > > > > Pronunciation: -'hen(t)-siv
> > > > > > > Function: adjective
> > > > > > > 1 : covering completely or broadly : INCLUSIVE 
> > <comprehensive 
> > > > > > examinations>
> > > > > > > <comprehensive insurance>
> > > > > > > 2 : having or exhibiting wide mental grasp 
<comprehensive 
> > > > > knowledge>
> > > > > > > - com·pre·hen·sive·ly adverb
> > > > > > > - com·pre·hen·sive·ness noun
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Main Entry: au·ton·o·my 
> > > > > > > Pronunciation: -mE
> > > > > > > Function: noun
> > > > > > > Inflected Form(s): plural -mies
> > > > > > > 1 : the quality or state of being self-governing; 
> > > especially : 
> > > > > the 
> > > > > > right of
> > > > > > > self-government
> > > > > > > 2 : self-directing freedom and especially moral 
> independence
> > > > > > >   
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Main Entry: each 
> > > > > > > Pronunciation: 'Ech
> > > > > > > Function: adjective
> > > > > > > Etymology: Middle English ech, from Old English [AE]lc; 
> > akin 
> > > to 
> > > > > Old 
> > > > > > High
> > > > > > > German iogilIh each; both from a prehistoric West 
> Germanic 
> > > > > compound 
> > > > > > whose
> > > > > > > first and second constituents respectively are 
> represented 
> > by 
> > > > Old 
> > > > > > English A
> > > > > > > always and by Old English gelIc alike
> > > > > > > : being one of two or more distinct individuals having 
a 
> > > > similar 
> > > > > > relation
> > > > > > > and often constituting an aggregate  
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Main Entry: per·son 
> > > > > > > Pronunciation: 'p&r-s&n
> > > > > > > Function: noun
> > > > > > > Etymology: Middle English, from Old French persone, 
from 
> > > Latin 
> > > > > > persona
> > > > > > > actor's mask, character in a play, person, probably 
from 
> > > > Etruscan 
> > > > > > phersu
> > > > > > > mask, from Greek prosOpa, plural of prosOpon face, 
mask --
>  
> > > more 
> > > > at
> > > > > > > PROSOPOPOEIA
> > > > > > > 1 : HUMAN, INDIVIDUAL -- sometimes used in combination 
> > > > especially 
> > > > > > by those
> > > > > > > who prefer to avoid man in compounds applicable to both 
> > sexes 
> > > > > > <chairperson>
> > > > > > > <spokesperson>
> > > > > > > 2 : a character or part in or as if in a play : GUISE
> > > > > > > 3 a : one of the three modes of being in the 
Trinitarian 
> > > > Godhead 
> > > > > as
> > > > > > > understood by Christians b : the unitary personality of 
> > > Christ 
> > > > > that 
> > > > > > unites
> > > > > > > the divine and human natures
> > > > > > > 4 a archaic : bodily appearance b : the body of a human 
> > > being; 
> > > > > > also : the
> > > > > > > body and clothing <unlawful search of the person>
> > > > > > > 5 : the personality of a human being : SELF
> > > > > > > 6 : one (as a human being, a partnership, or a 
> corporation) 
> > > > that 
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > recognized by law as the subject of rights and duties
> > > > > > > 7 : reference of a segment of discourse to the speaker, 
> to 
> > > one 
> > > > > > spoken to, or
> > > > > > > to one spoken of as indicated by means of certain 
> pronouns 
> > or 
> > > > in 
> > > > > > many
> > > > > > > languages by verb inflection
> > > > > > > - per·son·hood  /-"hud/ noun
> > > > > > > - in person : in one's bodily presence
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Can you comprehend, embrace, be consistent to, and 
> promote 
> > > this?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 'Reciprocal physical comprehensive autonomy for each 
> person'
> > > > > > > refers to a society in which each person is sovereign
> > > > > > > (aka individual sovereignty) over a physical domain
> > > > > > > that consists of their body and honestly acquired 
> > possessions;
> > > > > > > and a 'truce' on physical aggression by one person 
> against 
> > > > > another.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > That does not necessarily describe an atomistic society 
> > with 
> > > no
> > > > > > > interactions between these 'sovereign domains' It just 
> > means 
> > > > that
> > > > > > > any physical interaction must be CONSENSUAL rather than 
> the 
> > > only
> > > > > > > alternative option, COERCIVE. Libertarians advocate 
> > > > a 'consensual
> > > > > > > society' over the 'coercive society' of authoritarians.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Libertarianism's 'physical aggression truce' premise 
(aka
> > > > > > > NAP 'non-aggression principle' & ZAP 'zero aggression 
> > > > principle')
> > > > > > > thus accommodates a just and broad array of choices by
> > > > > > > free moral agents EXCEPT for the INITIATION, or 
credible 
> > > threat
> > > > > > > of initiation, of physical force against the person
> > > > > > > or justly acquired possessions of another.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > also see 'Your Freedom and the Rights of Others'
> > > > > > > at 
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/22990>
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Libertarians are NOT 'know it alls' so it's now up to 
> some 
> > of 
> > > > you
> > > > > > > folks in the audience to tell me and others, how would 
> > > > consistency
> > > > > > > to this principle improve that part of the world in 
which 
> > YOU 
> > > > are
> > > > > > > the expert?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > -Terry Liberty Parker
> > > > > > > Libertarian InterNet `meet up' a `Winner'
> > > > > > > at 
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/27519>
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 'Real World' famous LIBERTARIAN community experiment
> > > > > > > at 
> > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LibertyProspects/message/2569>
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >
> >
>







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