Interesting indeed. However I must say that I have given the party's main problem AND a solution to that problem in my previous message. I stated that I feel the party has a member base problem and that it is the most important dilemma facing the party. I also stated a solution I think would be most logical and realistic. The solution being we simply grow our member base. To go into a little more detail about how I think we should go about things would be to recruit as many Republicans and Democrats to our party. Even main stream headline making ones. All the better for our Party. I have actually converted a few people myself successfully over the years. If our Party members would focus all this energy and need for Liberty into their everyday lives, much could get accomplished quite quickly. I feel that since our Party members seem to be sooo individualistic, (which is not bad) that they sometimes loose sight of "conforming" and "sticking" together to achieve something in the real world. We most certainly live in a Republican/Democrat controlled country. We HAVE to "conform" to their game rules in order to participate in the real system. How to do that EXACTLY I will not get into. We all know what this Party's political goals are. It's just how we get there that I am concerned about and talking about. We all want to restaore Liberty, but there is a certain way for doing it. We can either fail or succeed. I want to succeed in the real world. So we must go about it in a very serious manner and fight them (Republocrats) at their own game!Just stating my personal opinion. --- In [email protected], "Matthew Yurkovic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What do you mean by conform? Almost sounds like the nice way of saying > we should abandon our principles. The thing that separates us from > Democrats and Republicans is that we stick to our principles instead > of blindly following the party, though I have seen a few Libertarians > who prove that statement wrong. People see our ideas as radical > because in a way they are, of course liberty is scary when what we are > seeing right now in government is growing oppression to keep "order". > Before I start ranting, you should elaborate on the solutions to this > dilemma, all I see are problems being listed below, but no solutions. > You do suggest we should conform, but how? > > P.S. This may just be my opinion, but the main goal of the Libertarian > party is not member growth, though it is a high priority. Rather the > main focus of this party is to restore liberty. > > > > Matt > > > --- In [email protected], "countsaitan" <countsaitan@> wrote: > > > > The Libertarian Party needs to conform and use the same tactics as > > the other two major parties. Many disagree with this idea, I do not > > however. For real lasting change, we are all going to have to play > > by the already established system of rules. Most of us do play by > > the rules, but I mean that we need to grow ourselves so big that we > > are no longer a "third party" because we engulfed one major party > > and maybe part of the other! A certain game is being played, all we > > have to do is learn what the Republicans and Democrats do, and > > follow suit. We have to get our name out there on a Nation wide > > level and keep it there. Some tactics work better than others. > > Obviously the Republicans and Democrats have a good thing going most > > of the time. There are other factors which aide them when compared > > to the Libertarians such as having been around longer, many more > > members etc. (Divide and Conqure, it sure works!) So since we have a > > two party system, I believe it is necessary to build our party up so > > big that we actually "EAT" one of the other party's!. Our REAL > > problems are quite simple and easily fixed. We have to, as members > > of the Libertarian Party, do everything we possibly can to get our > > name out there, respectively. Simply spending 5$ or so can buy you a > > nice sign that proudly proclaims your Party affiliation. If we ALL > > advertised our name in more ways than one, yard sign, flyers, car > > stickers etc. that alone would be a tremendous help! We must stay > > consistent with the support of our party like the other two major > > party's. Our party is still small, and since things work in this > > country based on numbers, how could we do anything if our member > > base is no comparison to our main opposers? The party needs more > > members/supporters!!! The more members, the more money our Party > > shall have. It's simply a matter of member base. Seriously. The more > > members, the more of an impact you will have. It affects EVERYTHING. > > Right now we affect very little compared to what we could affect if > > we only had more supporters. Some of you may become offended, but I > > am speaking the REALITY of the facts. We always get hung up on > > stupid non sense issues I have noticed. Our main issue is "growing > > the party". Everything else comes second until we reach our goal of > > becoming influencial enough to make real changes in policy. Lets > > CONCENTRATE on actually building our party using real world tactics > > that will work based on proven success by following the Democrats > > and Republicans. I have talked with 100s of people about > > Libertarianism and politics in general. Alot of people have "heard" > > of us, but feel that most of our ideas are so different/radical, > > that they immediately invision anarchy and chaos were we to get > > elected. FEAR is something I believe that scares potential voters > > away from our platform. Fear and indeed some ignorance. Most people > > will not take our Party seriously unless we had a large member base. > > Also, our Party is highly unorganized. Like I said before, the > > solution to our problems is our member base. Bring in new members > > and voters and we will see some serious changes. > > Take care all! and dont mind my spelling! lol > > >
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