Without consistency to a 'physical agression truce' the common ground for 'liberty & justice for all' in the material world just vanishes!
While MOST people, MOST of the time, on MOST issues, consciously or not, will abide by this 'truce' many seek 'exceptions' for their own causes. So, they will claim that such a 'commonality' doesn't exist; and that those who say otherwise are being absurd. Of course, people, including these 'exceptors' would NOT be able to walk out their home each day if there was no effective physical aggression truce already working. But, that observation seems not to disuade these exceptors from attempting to con other people about the matter. Ironically, while asserting their own 'cult' of arbitrary violence, they may attempt to project the 'cult' label on others who, unlike themselves, do abide by this univesal physical aggression truce. The truth is, that it is CONSISTENCY to this 'physical aggression truce' (aka NAP 'non aggression principle, ZAP 'zero aggression principle' and so on) which protects the 'self-ownership' autonomy of virtually all persons. Most people DO seem to inherently understand and usually apply the needed reciprocity; even if they don't know how to spell that word, let alone give it conscious definition. This, in fact, is the underlying principle for UNIVERSAL libertarianism; aka 'liberty & justice for ALL' So, a question to would be 'exceptors' is: what makes you think you have the right to initiate, or do a credible threat to initiate, physical force against the person or justly held possessions of another? PleaseSee: What's at the Heart of What Libertarians are Selling? at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/30419 -Terry Liberty Parker http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian --- In [email protected], "ma ni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Eric, > > Thank-you for finally stating that you reject the Non Aggression > Principle (NAP). But now you have to explain: > 1) Your reason. How is the principle of not violating another > person's rights "cultish"? > 2) Your previous statements. How is your acceptance of SOME > libertarian positions not NAP-based? > > -Mark > > ++++++++++++++++++ > > [eric wrote] > > That non-agression principle is absurd. It's for cultists. I > reject > cultism. Though, the '80's band of the same name, rocks. > > ---------------------- > > > --- In [email protected], "ma ni" <statonberg@> > wrote: > > > > Eric, > > > > Good points about guns, smokes, seat belts and burgers. You > have > > also stated in the past that you are against the drug war. We > > agree with you. Libertarianism agrees with you. But, back to a > > previous discussion: Surely your basis for agreeing with these > > libertarian perspectives is the non aggression principle. If > so, > > how can you maintain such a pro-aggression position on the > > military, and remain consistent? If the non aggression > principle > > is not your basis for advocating any libertarian position, what > > is? > > > > -Mark > > > > ++++++++++++++++ > > > > > > [eric wrote] > > > > I think you've got your terms mixed up. I'm sure you meant to > > say > > "Democrats equal neofascism." After all, they are the ones who > > don't > > mind if Islamo-Fascists blow up our buildings and kill our > fellow > > countrymen in the name of "Allah." Plus, as of yesterday, they > > are > > the ones wanting to take away our gun rights, (Dem Big City > > Mayors > > hold press conference urging Pelosi to act on Guns if elected, > > USA > > Today). > > > > And they are the ones passing all the smoking bans natiowide, > and > > forcing us to wear seal belts in our cars, and making sure that > > we > > don't eat McDonald's cheeseburgers. > > > > Democrat = Health Nazi. > > > > ---------- > ForumWebSiteAt http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
