demo = people / ocracy = government  aka: 'self-government'

MAJORITARIAN forms of COLLECTIVE 'self-government' lend themselves 
to 'abuse' 

UNIVERSAL CONSENSUS forms of 'democracy' support 'liberty & justice 
for ALL'  aka: universal libertarianism 


See: 'Your Freedom and the Rights of Others '
at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Libertarian/message/53296  


-Terry Liberty Parker 


--- In [email protected], "kiddleddee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> If 99 people out of 100 vote to take the property of the one who 
> voted against it, that's democracy. If he objects they "can" kill 
> the man and take his property. That's democracy.
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], Corey <cpmondello@> wrote:
> >
> >    
> >    
> >   I stumbled across a few websites that make a good argument 
about 
> Democracy. I quickly read a little bit from what I found and it 
> seems like they are playing with words. Here is one website I 
found; 
> http://www.democracyisnotfreedom.com/
> >    
> >   I know some Founding Fathers used 'Republic' as a word to 
> describe Amercia, and at one time the Democrat Party looked more 
> like the original Republican party and visa-versa. So, I'm 
thinking, 
> as times have changed, the meaning has changes.
> >    
> >   Here are a few sources, explaining what "Democracy" is. Can 
> someone please tell me what is wrong with Democracy?
> >    
> >    
> >   ------------------------------
> >    
> >    
> >   1)
> >   "Democracy (literally "rule by the people", from the Greek 
> demos, "people," and kratos, "rule") is a form of government for a 
> nation state, or for an organization in which all the citizens have 
> an equal vote or voice in shaping policy. Today democracy is often 
> assumed to be liberal democracy, but there are many other varieties 
> and the methods used to govern differ. While the term democracy is 
> often used in the context of a political state, the principles are 
> also applicable to other bodies, such as universities, labor 
unions, 
> public companies, or civic organizations."
> >    
> >   ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy
> >    
> >    
> >    
> >   ------------------------------
> >    
> >    
> >   2)
> >   Democracy consists of four basic elements:
> >   1. A political system for choosing and replacing the government 
> through free and fair elections. 
> >   2. The active participation of the people, as citizens, in 
> politics and civic life.
> >   3. Protection of the human rights of all citizens.
> >   4. A rule of law, in which the laws and procedures apply 
equally 
> to all citizens.
> >    
> >   ~ 
http://www.stanford.edu/~ldiamond/iraq/WhaIsDemocracy012004.htm
> >    
> >    
> >    
> >   ------------------------------
> >    
> >    
> >    
> >   3)
> >   "Democracies fall into two basic categories, direct and 
> representative. In a direct democracy, all citizens, without the 
> intermediary of elected or appointed officials, can participate in 
> making public decisions. Such a system is clearly only practical 
> with relatively small numbers of people--in a community 
organization 
> or tribal council, for example, or the local unit of a labor union, 
> where members can meet in a single room to discuss issues and 
arrive 
> at decisions by consensus or majority vote. Ancient Athens, the 
> world's first democracy, managed to practice direct democracy with 
> an assembly that may have numbered as many as 5,000 to 6,000 
persons-
> -perhaps the maximum number that can physically gather in one place 
> and practice direct democracy. 
> >    
> >   Modern society, with its size and complexity, offers few 
> opportunities for direct democracy. Even in the northeastern United 
> States, where the New England town meeting is a hallowed tradition, 
> most communities have grown too large for all the residents to 
> gather in a single location and vote directly on issues that affect 
> their lives. 
> >    
> >   Today, the most common form of democracy, whether for a town of 
> 50,000 or nations of 50 million, is representative democracy, in 
> which citizens elect officials to make political decisions, 
> formulate laws, and administer programs for the public good. In the 
> name of the people, such officials can deliberate on complex public 
> issues in a thoughtful and systematic manner that requires an 
> investment of time and energy that is often impractical for the 
vast 
> majority of private citizens."
> >    
> >   ~ U.S. Department of State's Bureau of International 
Information 
> Programs - 
> >   http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/whatsdem/whatdm2.htm 
> >    
> >    
> >    
> >   ----------------------------
> >    
> >    
> >    
> >   4)
> >   "If democracy means anything, it means rule by the people, 
i.e., 
> rule by the majority. We Americans add that liberal democracy also 
> means the minority has rights no majority may violate: freedom of 
> speech, of the press, of assembly, of religion."
> >    
> >   ~ http://www.antiwar.com/pat/?articleid=8770
> >    
> >    
> >    
> >   ----------------------------
> >    
> >    
> >    
> >   5)
> >   "The definitive definition of democracy is inadequate and 
> misleading. If all it means is that everyone can vote then anyone 
> could adopt it as an ideology. What did the GDR stand for other 
than 
> the German Democratic Republic?"
> >    
> >   ~ 
> 
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/open_thread/2006/07/what_is_democ
> racy_and_is_there.html
> >    
> >    
> >   ----------------------------
> >    
> >    
> >   6)
> >   What is democracy?
> >   "In this system everyone has rights and thus a tiny piece of 
> power. The people in this system decide on a regent to represent 
> them for a limited period of time and loan to them their tiny piece 
> of power so that the regent can start the government's program. But 
> the regent is only able to carry out this program, if the rest of 
> the population agrees. And it is not permitted to introduce a 
> program which would take away or limit the rights of the 
population."
> >    
> >   ~ 
> 
http://www.dadalos.org/int/Demokratie/Demokratie/Grundkurs1/grundkurs
> _1.htm
> >    
> >    
> >   --------------------------
> >    
> >    
> >   7)
> >   Democracy
> >   Trying to define "Democracy" is a difficult task. Democracy has 
> developed over the course of history and is present in many 
> different forms today. These are known as types of democracies. Two 
> other fundamentally different ways are available for recognizing 
the 
> differences: The identity and competition theories. 
> >    
> >   [Greek, "rule of the people"], A form of government in which 
> state authority is derived directly and/or indirectly from the 
> people. - European democracy has its roots in Ancient Greece where 
> it developed in the city-states as a direct or indirect democracy.
> >   
> > Modern democracy developed, firstly, out of the Calvinist 
> religious movement during the 17th century especially in Scotland, 
> England and Holland where communities began supporting religious 
and 
> political life and, secondly, out of the guiding principles from 
the 
> enlightenment period and in particular out of its beliefs on 
freedom 
> and equality for all and the normative importance of reasonable 
> thought by individuals on state and society. Theories by J. J. 
> Rousseau on sovereignty of the people as an indivisible and 
> inalienable right of the people were fundamental in this.
> >   
> > The first modern democratic state was established in the USA. 
> France was the first European state to be founded on democratic 
> principles following the French Revolution.
> >   
> > Western democracies also differ a great deal in their structure 
> and function: The most fundamental difference is the split between 
> the plebiscite and representative form of democracy. Plebiscite 
> forms of government are set apart by the direct involvement of the 
> people in legislative decisions. Be it by electing the highest 
state 
> authority, be it by petition for referendum followed by referendum 
> or be it by a referendum following a decision by the government to 
> put an issue to the people. Yet in most plebiscite forms of 
> government the main decision-making process remains the duty of 
> parliament. Plebiscitary decisions are usually reserved for issues 
> of special national importance such as the introduction of a new 
> currency (Euro) or membership to an international body with law-
> making powers. Switzerland is well known for its regular 
referendum. 
> Representative government does not allow for referenda.
> >    
> >   ~ 
> 
http://www.dadalos.org/int/Demokratie/demokratie/grundkurs1/Material/
> lexikon.htm
> >    
> >    
> >    
> >   ----------------------------
> >    
> >    
> >   8)
> >   "Democracy is a government defined as the government of the 
> People by the People. It comes from greek words: DEMOS meaning THE 
> PEOPLEand KRATEIN meaning GOVERN.
> > All the events, the personalities, the philosophies are analyzed 
> from the point of view of how much they strenghten democracy or how 
> much they harm Democracy."
> >   ~ http://www.fordemocracy.com/
> >    
> >    
> >   ----------------------------
> >    
> >    
> >   9)
> >   Definitions of democracy on the Web:
> >   http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls=com.microsoft:en-
> US&defl=en&q=define:democracy&sa=X&oi=glossary_definition&ct=title
> >    
> >    
> >   the political orientation of those who favor government by the 
> people or by their elected representatives, a political system in 
> which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who can elect 
> people to represent them, majority rule: the doctrine that the 
> numerical majority of an organized group can make decisions binding 
> on the whole group 
> > wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn 
> >    
> >   The term democracy indicates a form of government where all the 
> state's decisions are exercised directly or indirectly by a 
majority 
> of its citizenry through a fair elective process. When these 
factors 
> are met a government can be classified as such. This can apply to a 
> multitude of government systems as these concepts transcend and 
> often occur concomitantly with other types. 
> > en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy 
> >    
> >   List of movements, political parties, and other organisations 
> using the word:* Adivasi Democratic Front* African Democratic 
Rally* 
> African Democratic Rally (Burkina)* Algerian Party for Democracy 
and 
> Socialism* Alliance for Democracy and Federation* Alliance for 
> Democracy and Federation-African Democratic Rally* Alliance of Free 
> Democrats* Association of Free Democrats* Aziz Democratic Workers 
> Congress* Botswana Democratic Party* British Columbia Moderate 
> Democratic Movement* Cameroon ...
> > en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_(word) 
> >    
> >   Here is a partial list of varieties of democracy. The types of 
> democracy listed here are not mutually exclusive. 
> > en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_(varieties) 
> >    
> >   government by the people, exercised either directly or through 
> elected representatives
> > www.opb.org/education/coldwar/berlincrisis/glossary/ 
> >    
> >   a form of government in which people hold the power, either by 
> voting for measures directly or by voting for representatives who 
> vote for them.
> > www.enchantedlearning.com/election/glossary.shtml 
> >    
> >   Democracy is a political system which has many different 
> meanings and can take different forms. It is often incorrectly used 
> as a synonym for capitalism. Fundamentally, it means a government 
> of, by and for the people.
> > www2.truman.edu/~marc/resources/terms.html 
> >    
> >   The practice of the principle of equality of rights, 
> opportunity, and treatment.
> > www.nmlites.org/standards/socialstudies/glossary.html 
> >    
> >   A form of government in which political power is exercised by 
> the citizens.
> > 
campus.northpark.edu/history/WebChron/Glossary/Glossary.index.html 
> >    
> >   Derived from two ancient Greek words demos (the people) and 
> kratos (strength). A system of government in which governance of 
the 
> people is by elected representatives.
> > www.elections.act.gov.au/glossary.html 
> >    
> >   a form of government in which the citizens of a state vote 
> directly on all governmental affairs or indirectly through 
> democratically elected representatives
> > www3.newberry.org/k12maps/glossary/ 
> >    
> >   Government in which the Supreme Court is vested in the people 
> and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of 
> representation usually involving periodically held free elections.
> > 
> 
www.com.washington.edu/Program/news/digijournalism/islam/guide_glossa
> ry.html 
> >    
> >   Government by the people, through free and frequent elections. 
> [top]
> > 
> 
www.co.arlington.va.us/Departments/VoterRegistration/VoterRegistratio
> nTermsTrivia.aspx 
> >    
> >   In the United States, the condition in which the nation's 
> leaders are chosen by a majority of the citizens.
> > www.republicandictionary.com/rd_d.shtml 
> >    
> >   rule by the people. In the United States, democracy refers to a 
> system of government which derives its power from the consent of 
the 
> majority and governs according to the will of the majority.
> > www.historycentral.com/Civics/D.html 
> >    
> >   Greek: Demos (the people) Kratos (authority, rule). System of 
> government in which ultimate political power rests with a nation's 
> population at large, either directly or through elected 
> representatives. Citizens have the right to participate in 
political 
> decision-making. Democracy is not an Ideology, but rather an ideal 
> that can be reached or embodied by various institutional 
> arrangements according to one's ideological conception of Freedom, 
> Participation, Rights, etc... ...
> > www.elissetche.org/dico/D.htm 
> >    
> >   The concept of democracy is based on the simple principle that 
> when making an important public decision, the majority vote should 
> prevail because the will of the majority outweighs the wants of the 
> minority. The methods of implementing a governmental institution 
> based on this simple principle can be complicated, but are made 
> proper if a pluralistic party system is used. ...
> > ourworld.cs.com/_ht_a/duanekmccullough/glossary.htm 
> >    
> >   A system of government by the whole population, usually through 
> elected representatives.
> > www.polity.org.za/html/govdocs/white_papers/social97gloss.html 
> >    
> >   A system of government in which citizens participate in the 
> decisions of government either by voting directly or by electing 
> representatives to make decisions. The United States is an example 
> of a representative democracy.
> > www.nyise.org/homsy/ushistory/glossary.htm 
> >    
> >   Democracy is a principle whereby people in a country freely 
> elect representatives who make laws and govern with popular 
support. 
> A democratic government also implies that the people can change a 
> government if they are dissatisfied with it.
> > www.tomgreengop.org/politicalterms.htm 
> >    
> >   A system by which social equality is favoured. Democracy 
> means "rule of the people". Democracy includes open discussion, 
> direct voting on significant issues, policy formation in all realms 
> of social life; economics, education, religion and public life.
> > www.cupe.sk.ca/terminology.htm 
> >    
> >   Government of the people by the people, usually through their 
> elected represetatives Dictatorship: Control of a country by one 
> person or group with absolute power.
> > 
> 
www.apheda.org.au/campaigns/burma_schools_kit/resources/1074040257_16
> 812.html 
> >    
> >   From the Greek words for "people" (demos) and "power" (kratos), 
> this concept has no single meaning. Theorists distinguish 
> between "procedural" democracy (which is concerned with activities 
> like political participation, elections, and ways of taking power) 
> and substantive policy outcomes (which are concerned with the 
> educational, health, and economic consequences that government 
> produces).
> > www.politicalscience.utoledo.edu/faculty/lindeen/glos3260.htm 
> >    
> >   A government where political power is fully in the hands of the 
> people. Governmental systems in which the citizens exercise this 
> power directly through general assemblies or referenda to decide 
the 
> most important questions of law or policy.
> > www.information-entertainment.com/Politics/polterms.html 
> >    
> >   A political system or government by the people in which the 
> supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by 
them 
> or by their elected agents under a free electoral system. It is a 
> political system "of the people, by the people, and for the people."
> > 
> 
www.sage.edu/academics/schoolofprofessionalstudies/management/program
> s/definitions.htm 
> >    
> >   a country that is run by its citizens, usually through elected 
> representatives, where all adults are entitled to vote. Parliament 
> is made up of representatives from the people. (E) Equality: being 
> given the same opportunities. Equality does not always mean being 
> treated identically; it is about addressing different needs.
> > www.equalcitizen.org.uk/glossary.htm
> > 
> > 
> >  
> >   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> >    
> >    
> >     "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are 
> created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain 
> unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the 
> pursuit of Happiness...."
> > 
> >   ~ The Declaration of Independence - July 4th, 1776
> > 
> >    
> >    
> >    
> > 
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