TLP, If you could specify which of your "answers" I'm not reading carefully enough, I would appreciate it. Or if you could do the same by specifying which of my replies you think indicate careless reading, it would be good. Then, you could explain them each. Then, we could continue the discussion in a better debate fashion.
Regarding whether some of your answers or my careless reading relates to your excellent points on "morality", we could get into the specifics of that also. But it would be good if you would fist specify which parts best apply. Sans that, I will say that my position best upholds libertarian concepts of P&P&P morality. -Mark +++++++++++++++++ Mark, you are NOT reading my post(s) carefully enough, as I've already ed/addressed most of what you say here. I'll add this about 'morality' which IS integral to this topic: PUBLIC morality: that which is right/wrong for all persons. Libertarian 'public morality' can be thought of as reciprocal comprehensive physical autonomy for each person; It is consistency to a 'physical aggression truce' that can be expressed as: each person may do anything that they individually choose to do of their own free will EXCEPT initiate, or do a credible threat to initiate, physical force against the person or justly acquired possessions of another (yes, this does also address fraud) PRIVATE morality: that which is right/wrong for persons in private association (congregation, civic club, business and so on) The specifics can be as arbitrary as is mutually agreed upon by consenting persons in voluntary association. PERSONAL morality: that which is right/wrong for an individual person. This will usually be some combination of PUBLIC and PRIVATE 'morality' chosen by free will of the adopter of this personal standard. -Terry Liberty Prker 'Real world' experiment in LIBERTARIAN community became famous as peace demonstration and more at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LibertyProspects/message/2569
