Ralph,
They don't have any buttons. They don't have any nuclear weapons, nor have they attacked anyone. Nor have they threatened anyone. What are we going to do about OUR government, which are the ones who are actually killing us merely for wanting to live our lives? Nic From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 6:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Forgetting The Past Is Fool's Game, By Alicia Colon, artical about Ralph ... Preemptive strike is more like it. We must do this so Holocausts can be prevented! Are you sheeple? I pray not. I embrace the notion of peace only if my objectors do not want to kill me for living my life. Such was the case in Europe. As long as Israel exists, this will never ever happen again. We will nuke them Nic before they can even think of pressing that button beforehand. Take that to bed with you ... I mean 'NEVER AGAIN". Thanks, Ralph We've have lost all our rights, practically. If you don't realize that, you're still brainwashed. All governments are evil because all of them are currently authoritarian. Our government is not inherently evil, it's just evil period because it doesn't follow the Constitution, and it has conspired to dilute the Constitution over the last hundred years. You state that the militant Muslims want to rule the world? That's exactly what all the governments of the world want, and they all conspire together to reinforce each other, and all of them already repress their people. Our current government is very evil. Regards, Nic From: Bill Bradley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:41 AM To: Nicolas Leobold Subject: RE: RE: Forgetting The Past Is Fool's Game, By Alicia Colon, artical about Ralph Rubinek No, I'm not that Bill Bradley. I agree with you to a point, that we have lost some of our freedom of speech, and that is due to the far left and their agenda. However, our form of government is still the best there is. Moreover, it is not inherently evil just because it is a government, nor is it inherently corrupt. With out governments there would be chaos. We need to have some order and laws by which to live. However, too many laws can oppress a nation. And that is what the militant Muslims want. They want to rule the world by repressing all of mankind and forcing them into submitting to their will and their religion. And that includes Ahmadinejad. Cordially, Bill Bradley Mr. Bradley, or Bill, I believe ALL governments are evil. And all peoples are good, as far as I'm concerned, except most of the so-called leaders of all those governments. Get it? Unfortunately, contrary to what you say, we don't have our Freedom of Speech anymore, or any of our other rights. I don't know whether you read the newspapers, but they have been obliterated by the same Socialist ideology which both of us apparently oppose, if you truly oppose it. If you think this government is a good one and you support it, then you're not an enemy of socialism and authoritarianism like I am. By the way, are you Bill Bradley, the former Presidential candidate and Senator from New Jersey? Have a good week, Nic Leobold New York, N.Y. From: Bill Bradley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 2:07 AM To: Nicolas Leobold Cc: Subject: Fwd: RE: Forgetting The Past Is Fool's Game, By Alicia Colon, artical about Ralph Rubinek Mr. Leobold, I don't know what rock you crawled out from under, but perhaps you should crawl back under it. If you believe that America and Israel are evil you have a serious misunderstanding of history. Let me start with Israel. Israel has been under constant attack, either verbally or physically, since it became a nation again. The Arabs, who used to call themselves "Syrians," and lived in what used to be called southern Syria, now call themselves "Palestinians," a name the Romans called the people of that land 2,000 years ago, when the predominate residents were Jews. When this land was mandated to go back to the Jews, the Arabs protested. Of course, they don't mention that the majority of the mandated area went to Arabs, leaving just a small strip of land for Israel. Yet, we don't hear any Arabs offering land for a "Palestinian" State, even though they have many thousands of square miles of land more than Israel. No. They won't do it, because they want Israel gone. Since the mandate, Arabs have tried time and time again to destroy Israel, but the determined Israelis foiled them. Their last attempt was an attack from Lebanon, by Hezbollah. They came onto Israeli soil and abducted two soldiers, then fired rockets at civilian targets. That, sir, is provocation. If the Lebanese government would not, or could not prevent Hezbollah from attacking Israel, then the Israeli government had the responsibility to its people to counter attack. The fact that Hezbollah hid among the people and fired from heavily populated areas indicated a lack of moral judgment as well as a lack of concern for civilian lives, which would put them in the category of evil. Oh, and by the way, part of the cease-fire agreement was that the Israeli soldiers were to be returned, but they were not. They lacked and still do lack the integrity to keep their word. Israel has been attacked time and time again, yet each time they win, and they are forced to give back lands that they won in those wars. How often are winners of wars forced to give back land to the aggressors who initiated the wars? Now, as far as the United States is concerned, how many millions of people have we liberated from totalitarian governments? We drove back the Japanese, who had murdered millions of people throughout Asia and on Pacific Islands. We helped the Japanese to get back on their feet, and now they are one of the world's economic powerhouses of industrial nations. We went into Europe to aid the Europeans with their Nazi problem. As a result, tens of millions of Europeans were freed from Nazi tyranny. We supplied personnel and supplies to Europe for decades to prevent the Russian Communists from spreading their reign of terror across the face of Europe. Militant Muslims have attacked us time and time again, and when we finally fight back people like you call us evil. Amazing! Like Europe, we went into Iraq too late to save a lot of lives, but our eventual action saved many more thousands of lives. People hate America, because of people like you, and people like the liberal press who appear to want socialist governments defining for us our every move. Perhaps, if you believe that America is so bad, maybe you should try living in Iran, where you seem to believe that life is so great. That's a land where when a 17-year-old girl is raped and tries to defend herself, she is sentenced to death for killing her attacker, because the rapist is not considered at fault. Only the girl who was raped was at fault. Your history seems to be skewed to say the least. If Ahmadinejad was misquoted, then he has been misquoted many times by many people, even by the anti-American liberal press. For, not only has he stated that he wants to wipe Israel off the map, so has Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, the leaders of Hezbollah, and the so-called "Palestinians," just to name a few. As a veteran of one of those wars that you claim were unjust, I must say that like millions of others, I willingly served my country to assure that all Americans would retain their right to free speech, among our other freedoms, even if they were wrong. You sir, are wrong about America and you are wrong about Israel. So, I must presume that you are wrong about your other so-called "facts." I regularly receive emails from Mr. Rubinek, and I happen to agree with most of what he writes. Why? Perhaps it's because he is right. I also fought to preserve my freedoms as well, including my right to speak out against those who spin the truth and misrepresent my country. Unfortunately, there are a lot of misinformed people like you around today. Sad, very sad indeed. Bill Bradley Nicolas Leobold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: "Nicolas Leobold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, < >, < >, < >, CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Forgetting The Past Is Fool's Game, By Alicia Colon, artical about Ralph Rubinek Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:12:03 -0400 I would like to inform Alicia Colon and the rest of y'all that it's highly debatable whether the Iranian President really endorses attacking Israel. Most linguists and Iranian experts have explained that what he actually said, properly translated, is that Israel should "fade away into history". I am quite sure that all this scare-talk about Iran is just more pro-Israel, neocon facist war mongering and propaganda. The fact remains that Iran has never invaded any country, and it has a large population of educated, pro-western citizens. The U.S. and Israel have invaded other countries many times, and killed millions of foreigners as well as their own people. Open your eyes. The U.S. and Israel both violate human rights and make their own citizens suffer and slave away for the state and their elites. Attacking Iran would be a disaster for us, as they would hit back hard and would have every right to. How would we in America react if Iran sent 3 aircraft carrier battle groups one mile offshore of New York? We'd be livid, and would probably nuke them back to prehistory. So why do we think we have the right to send our military all over the world to intimidate and occupy other countries? It's sheer arrogance, of the megalomaniacal self-righteous variety. No wonder so many countries and people despise the U.S. Our government is a bunch of immoral, raping, murdering thieving lying thugs. We should look to correct our own faults before criticizing others. Our government is now the most corrupt and evil in the world. Please ask yourself, are you being lied to? Why does our government take 60%+ of our money and tell us how to live every aspect of our lives and deny our Liberty and Rights? Something might be wrong here, don't you think? Nicolas Leobold New York, N.Y. Ralph, When you email me, please include the original messages so I know what you're referring to. I don't know what you're saying no to below. Thanks, Nic P.S. No matter how many Islamofascists and Nazis there are in the world, I don't think Judaism is in any danger, and if it was I would work to protect it. But Israel has nukes and jews have the U.S., and none of that is going to change any time soon. But it would be nice if Israelis and the U.S. respected peoples' rights. They don't currently. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Forgetting The Past Is Fool's Game, By Alicia Colon, artical about Ralph ... No, but Jews were murdered because they had trust in government, they harmed no one and were subservient and allowed themselves to be disarmed, Jews in general were persecuted because they were Jews period. Now we have Israel, the sons and daughters of the Holocaust fighting those who seek the final solution once again. Nic, you are so wrong on this subject. Ralph And Israel and the U.S. are using propaganda too. Has Iran attacked anyone? Has the U.S.? Yes. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 9:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Forgetting The Past Is Fool's Game, By Alicia Colon, artical about Ralph ... It is absolutely the issue. The blind eye/ear toward fascist Islamic rhetoric is completely insane Nicholas ... Hitler has very similar parallels before his final solution. They (Iranians) are even distributing the "Protocols Of Zion" as scholastic and academic tools of learning. Just as Adolph Hitler. Why Arabs love Israel _____ Posted: April 9, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern Editor's note: Are you ready for the Second American Revolution? Joseph Farah's new book, "Taking America <http://www.shopnetdaily.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=1052> Back" exposes the weaknesses in America's current system and offers practical solutions - solutions that are real and doable, solutions that can revive freedom, morality and justice in our nation. 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Not because I am writing about immigration in America, but because I want to make a point about immigration in the Middle East. Conventional wisdom suggests a huge Arab population was displaced by the creation of Israel in 1948. It suggests the remaining Arab population in Israel has been mistreated. And it further suggests the solution to this problem is the creation of an Arab Palestinian state on Israeli land. There are several glaring misconceptions in this view: * The Arab population displaced by the 1948 war has been greatly exaggerated. The actual figure is no more than 500,000. Even more important is the cause of that displacement. The 1948 war was declared against Israel by all of its Arab neighbors. The refugees left Israel at the urging of those Arab states. They were told to leave because their homeland was about to be liberated by Arab forces. Of course, we all know Israel survived. Who is morally and legally culpable for creating those refugees? I would suggest it is the Arab states, not Israel. * Far from being mistreated, the Arab population in Israel and in the territories administered by Israel has been freer than the population in any Arab state. Arabs in Israel vote. They elect leaders to the Knesset. They have their own political parties. They have their own newspapers. They have full rights to citizenship. They are free to speak their minds. As an Arab-American journalist who has spent a good deal of time covering the region, I can tell you there is more freedom for Arabs in Israel than in any Arab state. * Land cannot possibly be the contentious issue as the Arab and Muslim states in the region already have 800 times as much territory as Israel. The Arabs have 50 times the population of Israel. The Arabs have all of the oil reserves of the region. They have 21 states of their own - all varying shades of police states. It's difficult to imagine how one more will bring peace to a region that has known some of the most devastating and costly wars of the last century. But, to top it all off, I seem to be the only observer asking pointed questions about the Arab-Israeli conflict: If conditions for Arabs are so bad in Israel, why is the Arab population exploding -- and I don't mean because of suicide bombers? Why do Arabs continue to flock to the tiny Jewish state from virtually every Arab and Muslim land in the world? In 1949, the Arab population of Israel was about 160,000. Today, it is over 1.2 million. This is hardly attributable to higher birth rates. Most of the growth in Arab population is due to migration. In other words, Arabs are picking up stakes in Arab lands and choosing to live in Israel. This trend, of course, doesn't include Arab Jewish migration to Israel. No one talks about the staggering number of Arab Jewish refugees - as many as 1 million - who fled the Muslim world with little more than the clothes on their backs to reach the safety and security of the Jewish state in the last 50 years. We're led to believe Arabs hate Israel - and, indeed, it's true there is an irrational, inexplicable form of virulent anti-Semitism growing in the Arab and Muslim world. But when they vote with their feet, Arabs seem to love Israel. They continue to choose it as a place to live over life in their native countries as they have for the last half-century. I'd love to hear one of the Arab nationalists explain this phenomenon. Ralph, btw, Are Jews the only people who have suffered genocide? Nic From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 8:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Forgetting The Past Is Fool's Game, By Alicia Colon, artical about Ralph ... Nic ... My eyes are totally open ... Find my family when similar talk became self evident in the past. If you can find out what happened to my family and let me know my parents were liars I will sign over every penny I own to you. Why do you support the Second Amendment? Perhaps the left and all its apologists are right? Wake up Nic ... Ralph From: Nicolas Leobold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 8:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Forgetting The Past Is Fool's Game, By Alicia Colon, artical about Ralph ... Ralph, What does your family have to do with this? NOTHING. Stop confusing two separate issue. Iran hasn't attacked anyone. Open your eyes, and come to your senses. Our government is psychotic and sociopathic. Meanwhile, Jews are at least as safe as anyone else, probably more so. Nic From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 8:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Forgetting The Past Is Fool's Game, By Alicia Colon, artical about Ralph ... Nic ... My eyes are totally open ... Find my family when similar talk became self evident in the past. If you can find out what happened to my family and let me know my parents were liars I will sign over every penny I own to you. Why do you support the Second Amendment? Perhaps the left and all its apologists are right? Wake up Nic ... Ralph _____ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000339> AOL.com. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
