MODERATOR'S RESPONSE: Incredible! This gentleman attempted to use the exact same straw man argument that I just debunked, and he obviously thought that I wouldn't notice. He started with the false premise that I want to help all the world's poor, and he then attacked that premise as if it were true, rendering the rest of his post completely meaningless.
How does leaving people alone imply adoption and support? Individual Liberty is no more of a "social experiment" than breathing is. The only "social experiment" I see is the vain and misguided attempt to control the lives of others in the name of some "collective good". ---Sasan --------------------------------------------------------------- "Saul T. Dawg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: well now! what a marvelous response to a display that you obviously dont like. well said reponse too. i am soooo pleased to read it, that i now offer you a wonderfull oportunity to live up to it. if you really think there is no need for border control based on the graph shown then, i recomend you ADOPT A FAMILY OF ILLEAGLE IMMIGRANTS! just so you dont ever be accused of being a racist i think only i should have the right to choose what color/religion/tribe you need. i wont choose any europeans unless they are uneducated moslim fascist. they need love too. now after you find your new family, get them moved into your house as soon as possable. now dont be selfish. you gotta give up your personal space. like your bed and bathroom. you just remember what these folks need.they need alot. so you better get a part time job to get ready for all those med expences them babies just keep on comming. and dont forget college! i just know that your wife and kids wont mind giving up some things for your social experment. you all will have lots of fun working together in shifts. to pay all the bills. you will have the pride of knowing you have relieved an american taxpayer of some tiny fraction of the overall cost. oh yeah and think of the fun you will have at family reunions now with all those new faces of the children and future generations of your new responsabilities. this is starting to sound good to me too. can i come over and live at your house too. ????????? --- In [email protected], "Sasan Sadat-Sharifi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > MODERATOR'S NOTE: Here we go again: more naked propaganda in the "War > on Immigration". In the first video the presenter used population > charts that start at present levels instead of zero in order to make > the impact of immigration look more severe than it is. Notice how red > represents the impoverished immigrant horde while green represents a > clean, pure America. > > The presenter then used Socialist Collectivist arguments to assert the > "we" are forced to build new schools and roads to accommodate the > influx of immigrants into this country. Of course, the fact that "we" > are forced to build roads and schools for ANYBODY is a violation of > the ideals of Individual Liberty, and immigration has nothing to do > with it. > > The presenter also used the "straw man" technique to accuse those who > are against border restrictions of foolishly wanting to help the whole > world. This false argument allowed the presenter to classify > foreigners as "gum balls", and the image of gum balls overflowing from > a "third world" jar sent chills through the mesmerized audience. > > The reason that I am against border restrictions is simply this: > Individual Liberty is ABSOLUTE and UNIVERSAL. It is not determined by > country of origin, nor is it subject to suppression or removal by > those who claim to be "authorities" acting for the "common good". It > is the natural order of things, and rejection of this truth is the > fundamental origin of the overwhelming majority of problems in a > modern society. > > As for the second video, this is another attempt to classify the views > of one organization as representative of millions of individuals who > have nothing to do with them. The KKK claims to speak for all white > Americans. Does that mean that most white Americans share their views > and goals? > ---Sasan > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > --- In [email protected], John Perna <savefreedom2oo3@> > wrote: > > > > Everything that you need to know about illegal immigration in just > 2 videos! > > > > Immigration by the numbers: The "Gumballs video". > > > > http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=n7WJeqxuOfQ > > > > MEXICAN TEACHER PLANNING REVOLT INSIDE USA!! > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5ZMLUgvpFw > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >
