Bob,

Your bigoted rhetoric reflects the latest government-sanctioned
prejudice: against drug-dealers. At what point might we hear you
call them "low-life scum"?

Your ignorance of black-market realities is extensive. Casting
the average drug dealer as "evil", and your average drug-related
killing as "murder for profit", reeks of prejudice. Please
educate yourself better about black-market dynamics. If you don't
understand them, you will not be able to understand why drug
prohibition directly causes crime. If you shot a man robbing your
business, would you be "evil" and committing "murder for profit"?
Of course not. But if your store was an illegal enterprise,
official headlines might cast you as such.  


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To me, the issue of good and evil is HIGHLY relevant.  While I'm
not religious, there are some things (like liberty) that are
inherently "good," and other things (like Islamism) that are
quite "evil."  

There's a similar relationship of good and evil that can be
applied to the drug prohibition debate, with some drug gang
members being "evil" enough to murder people for profit.


From: ma ni 
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:26 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: RE: [Libertarian] George Carlin: "We Like War"


Bob,

Not at all. A reverse phrasing is not the same as a False
Dichotomy. Your use of "no" and "only" makes it nothing but an
absolute exaggeration intended to distort my argument. The
correct way to turn it around would be: "There would be far fewer
people committing crimes if there was no bad government." 

Your last question is irrelevant.
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Turning that argument around, are you claiming there are no bad
people? People only commit crimes because of bad government?

Further, do you believe in good and evil?

From: ma ni 
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:24 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: RE: [Libertarian] Re: George Carlin: "We Like War"

If you minimize drug-war crime as "environmental determinism",
why are you a libertarian? Why do you care about individual
rights? Why do you care if we have freedom? Why do you care if an
Islamo-fascist forces you to wear a rag and your wife to wear a
berka? Why do you care if we aren't allowed to eat the food we
like or take the establishment drugs we habitually consume? Why
do you care if the ignorant majority pushes you around a little
bit? Why do you care if people steal your stuff? Why do you care
if a mob threatens or tortures or kills your family? WHY DO YOU
CARE ABOUT TERRORISM? None of that really FORCES you to react
violently. Anyone who does react violently is simply a born
criminal and will always be a criminal and will go from one
criminal enterprise to another when it dries up. To blame crime
on bad law is simply to misunderstand "those people" we like to
call "lowlife scum". Why do you really care about bad laws in our
political "environment"? They don't really "determine" your
actions - do they? 



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