No, it's not as simple as that. Copyright enforcement is a joke, to say that sharing an item with someone is illegal and warrants lawsuits and home invasions is ridiculous. The artists may have rights but they don't usurp all of ours.
DC 4 Liberty ----- Original Message ----- From: Nicolas Leobold To: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 7:42 PM Subject: [Libertarian] Re: I meet Rudy Giuliani in a movie theater Saturday night If someone creates a work then it's their property, it's simple as that. The scientologists I've met haven't used any force and fraud that I've seen. Nic --- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Cicconi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Give it a break Nic, these people are thieves. They will steal your children and work them in gulags. I know I was a member. They are the perfect example of government sitting back and allowing force and fraud to go on at the same time, all because of their power. Their tax exempt status has been stripped in many countries, the only reason they ever got it in the US was the fact that they filed over 2500 law suits against the IRS and they finally capitulated. > > We are a country obsessed with copyrights and have used them to rent seek and not allow certain industries to change with the market place, further ripping off the market place. Instead we plead to the federal government to save our industry by enforcing stupid laws that get you served with papers at the front door or even worse the door gets kicked in. I'm tired of these artistic asswholes who haven't excepted the fact the market place has changed and that's all there is to it. The artists types that are usually concerned about everyone's rights don't seem to care that they have turned loose a government on their behalf that is fining people money and kicking in doors all in the name of protecting there creation. > > I THINK I'M GOING TO PUKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > HOW LONG ARE WE GOING TO OPPRESS OURSELVES WITH THIS CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > DC 4 Liberty > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nicolas Leobold > To: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 4:09 PM > Subject: [Libertarian] Re: I meet Rudy Giuliani in a movie theater Saturday night > > > But those are copyrighted works of The Church of Scientology. > > Freedom of Speech applies to curtailing government suppression, it > doesn't apply to private property and an organization or individual > controlling their own materials. > > If the videos were Scientology property and they were stolen/broadcast > without permission, then Cruise and the church have a right to be angry. > > Nic > > --- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, "Peter" <pyotr@> wrote: > > > > Yes, see his response to the airing of his Scientolgy videos. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Nicolas Leobold > > To: Libertarian@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 12:25 PM > > Subject: [Libertarian] Re: I meet Rudy Giuliani in a movie theater > Saturday night > > > > > > --- In Libertarian@yahoogroups.com, pyotr@ wrote: > > > > > > Rudy might have responded better if you treated him like Tom: > > > "Love you, Rudy" > > > > > > Tom Cruise is not exactly a defender of Freedom of Speech > either... In > > > fact the opposite. > > > > Do you have any examples of how Tom Cruise is not a defender of free > > speech? > > > > Nic > > > > > > > > > I meet Rudy Giuliani in a movie theater Saturday night > > > > > > > > Saturday night I went to the 7:15pm showing of Woody Allen's > new movie > > > > Vicky Christina Barcelona at AMC 25 theater in Times Square with > > my mom. > > > > > > > > As we were sitting in our seats in the second row from the > front, my > > > > mom glances to the right and says to me, "That looks like Rudy > > > > Giuliani sitting next to me". Just a moment before, Giuliani and > > > > presumably his new wife Judith had inched past my long legs to > their > > > > seats, but Judith had gone back out to get refreshments. I didn't > > > > notice who they were when they passed. > > > > > > > > After my mom noticed that it was Rudy Giuliani, she leaned > over to him > > > > and said, "We're in for an enjoyable evening, we've picked a good > > > > movie". My mother is more charitable than I am. I leaned over > her and > > > > said to him, "I hope you enjoy the movie, but I wish you would > stop > > > > violating the Bill of Rights". Rudy had a look of scorn on his > face > > > > and replied, "Well, you enjoy the movie". > > > > > > > > That was his response to an earnest request to respect the Bill of > > > > Rights--"Enjoy the movie". > > > > > > > > My mom small talked with Judith Giuliani a bit and after the movie > > > > Rudy and her made a quick exit past me and out of the > auditorium. It > > > > seemed like Rudy was afraid I would try to trip him as he squeezed > > by me. > > > > > > > > Friday night while walking with some friends from dinner, we > saw Tom > > > > Cruise, Katie Holmes and Baby Suri as they came out of the > American > > > > Felt Building on 12th or 13th Street. The whole place was > stuffed with > > > > paparazzi, but we sqeezed in on the side and got right up close to > > > > them. 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