"It is part of customary international law, which means it is
binding on all states, whether or not they have ratified any of
the international human rights treaties."

I believe the US government should reject all such laws as infringing on our 
sovereignty as a nation of free people.  International laws should bind the US 
government and American citizens only when such laws have been ratified by our 
elected representative.  I believe the US Constitution mandates that.


From: ma ni 
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 9:52 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: RE: [Libertarian] scramble for cover





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torture#Laws_against_torture

Laws against torture
On December 10, 1948 the United Nations General Assembly adopted
the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR). Article 5
states, "No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel,
inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment."[6] Since that time
a number of other international treaties have been adopted to
prevent the use of torture. Two of these are the United Nations
Convention Against Torture and for international conflicts the
Geneva Conventions III and IV.

http://www.amnestyusa.org/war-on-terror/reports-statements-and-is
sue-briefs/torture-and-the-law/page.do?id=1107981

The Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or
Degrading Treatment or Punishment was adopted by the United
Nations General Assembly in 1984 and entered into force on June
26, 1987.

The United States ratified the Convention against Torture in
October 1994. The Convention entered into force for the United
States on November 20, 1994.

In 1994, Congress enacted a new federal law to implement the
requirements of the Convention against Torture relating to acts
of torture committed outside United States territory. This law,
which is codified at 18 U.S.C. ยง 2340 et seq., extends United
States criminal jurisdiction over any act of (or attempt to
commit) torture outside the United States by a United States
national or by an alleged offender present in the United States
regardless of his or her nationality.

The prohibition of torture has a special status in international
law. It is part of customary international law, which means it is
binding on all states, whether or not they have ratified any of
the international human rights treaties.

The prohibition on torture is also a ''peremptory norm,'' which
means that it cannot be overruled by any other law or by local
custom.

Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions prohibits ''violence
to life and person,'' in particular ''mutilation, cruel treatment
and torture'' and also prohibits ''outrages upon personal
dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment''.
These terms include ''other forms of cruel, inhuman and degrading
treatment or punishment."

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If your post, Bob, is to imply support for the Bush
administration's "enemy-combatant" excuse for torturing, I think
we are all seeing how that particular bit of legal "genius" is
working out. In the mean time, maybe you could explain why you
automatically assume hundreds of "POWs" are truly guilty of being
"illegal enemy combatants". It's not clear to me which particular
court was provided and what particular evidence was submitted and
what particular convictions were made. Surely you, Bob, do not
presume guilt before innocence. 

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It's not clear to me which particular law was violated here. I
thought there was no international law that applies to illegal
combatants. Can anyone point to something specific?





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