Don't thank me, I'm not your friend.
-----Original Message----- From: Sam Sloan [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 10:24 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; LPNY; [email protected] Cc: Nicolas Leobold; [email protected] Subject: Re: [LPQC] Re: Sam Sloan - NYC LP Nominating Convention Allow me to respond: First, with respect to the "Bronx Libertarian Party", I asked many times to be sent a list of LPNY members who reside in the Bronx so that I could organize the party. I never got the list. I must have asked at least five or six times. After a while, it became obvious that they did not want to give me the list. Even today, if they will give me the list, I will try to organize the Bronx Libertarian Party. I will give you a somewhat detailed answer to your other questions later. However, the short answer is that there are certain persons within the party who are long standing members and who have consistently opposed and undermined every every effort I have made to help the party. The main persons in that category are James Lesczynski, Bonnie Scott and Richard Cooper. All three of them spoke out vehemently against me at my first meeting of the State Committee in January 2002, when I rejoined the party after a 30-year absence. I have no I idea why they did this since they did not know me at all at that time. I do know that they have opposed me ever since. I have done nothing, not the slightest thing, against any of those people. Nevertheless, in a recent email to several party insiders but which was not posted on any of the lists, Richard Cooper referred to me as a "slimeball" or some words to that effect.I just cannot understand why he keeps saying and writing things like that. I do definitely appreciate and thank Tom Stevens, Mark Axinn and Nic Leobold for their efforts to help me deal with this problem. I thank them again now. However, the meeting just concluded highlights the problem. Joseph Dobrian says that he wants to run a "money-free" campaign for election as Mayor of New York City. The other person who accepted the nomination for Comptroller said that he did not want to run at all but was accepting just to fill a position that would otherwise be empty. Both of them have run as Libertarian candidates many time in the past without stirring up much enthusiasm from the voters. I am the one person who really wants to run a hard hitting campaign and I said that I am willing to commit $5,000 of my own money to my own campaign. Independent persons who were present at the meeting have said that I made by far the best presentation of any of the candidates, yet I got almost zero votes. He could not understand it. Now, regarding the incident that Tom brings up, perhaps you have forgotten that James Lesczynski and Bonnie Scott protested vehemently that I had received that nomination. James Lesczynski protested that this was done when he had left the room, so he could not oppose it. This was absolutely true. The persons supporting my candidacy waited until a moment when James Lesczynski was out of the room, knowing that if he was there he would make a big stink and without doubt would be successful in blocking my nomination. Richard Cooper was not there either. However, Bonnie Scott was still there. She remained silent, but later on by email she asked for a re-vote. When asked why she did not speak and vote against me at the appropriate time, she said that she had been threatened and intimidated by Nic Leobold, and so she was afraid to speak. If you will search the archives of this group, you will find Bonnie Scott saying that. However, this was ridiculous because Nic Leobold was on the other side of the room, far from Bonnie Scott, whereas I was standing right next to Bonnie when this happened. Perhaps you will recall that when I was living in Queens in 2002-2003 I tried in two successive years to run for US Congress. I was duly nominated at a meeting of the Queens Libertarian Party and I collected signatures. However, James Lesczynski got Alfred Dedicki, who was Chairman of the State Party at the time, to file objections with the NYC Board of Elections. It was obvious that James Lesczynski personally carried these objections and got them time-stamped in at the NYC Board of Elections at 32 Broadway, although he has always denied doing this. As a result, I was kicked off the ballot. Alfred Dedicki resigned from the party a few days later and has not been seen nor heard from since. Then, the next time I sought to run unopposed as a candidate from Queens, a vote was taken at the annual convention of the Queens Libertarian Party and I received the nomination by a vote of 10-5. However, Jim Strahorn (I am not sure of the spelling of his name) objected, saying that there were 16 voting members at the meeting and somebody had not voted. One lady raised her hand and said that she had not voted because she was new to the party and did not know the issues. Jim Strahorn, who was party secretary, then said that as I had received only 10 votes out of 16 present, I had not achieved the 2/3rds majority required by party rules and therefore my nomination was invalid. So, from all these examples going back to 2002, it can be seen there is something more going on here than the claim that somebody is making that I did not make a good presentation. I wish I knew what was behind all this and I wish I knew what could be done about it. Of course, petty bickering and personality feuds is a characteristic of all small parties and is the reason why the Democrats and the Republicans have nothing to worry about. Sam Sloan On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 3:41 PM, rebelcrusader2525 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Sam, > > As I mentioned to you when you asked at the NYC LP Nominating > Convention, the time when you failed to keep your promises > that sticks out in my mind was when I supported getting the > State Committee to endorse your run for Congress in Brooklyn > and I explicitly asked whether you would commit the resources > to obtain the petition signatures necessary to get on the > ballot as a Libertarian. > > Shortly thereafter, you sought to obtain the endorsement > of the Republican Party and when that fell through, the > Working Families Party as a write-in candidate. As for > getting petition signatures to get on the ballot as a > Libertarian, you complained about people not helping you > and then you litigated the issue to death to no avail. > Since the LP does not have the people to obtain a > sufficient number of signatures, one must rely on paid > petitioners. > > This is what soured me with respect to any future Sloan > candidacy and it is why I did not vote for you for any > office at the NYC LP Nominating Convention. Frankly, > I had no confidence that you would follow through to > do the grunt work required to successfully obtain > ballot access. > > On another note, if you were focused and organized, > you could recruit a handful of Bronx Libertarians, > form a Bronx Libertarian Party and endorse yourself > until Kingdom come for any office in the Bronx you > wish to run for. Why don't you do that? > > I raise these issues only because you asked. > > In Liberty, > > Dr. Tom Stevens > LPQC State Representative > > - In [email protected], Sam Sloan <samhsl...@...> wrote: > >> >> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 1:30 PM, gary popkin <garypop...@...> wrote: >> > >> > >> > Maybe, among other things, you are not trusted because >> > on previous occasions you have failed to carry out >> > your promises. >> > >> > Gary Popkin >> >> What promises were those? >> >> The only time I ever got on the ballot as a Libertarian Party >> candidate was in 2002 when I collected all the signatures myself with >> just some help from my friends and with no help from anybody in the >> Libertarian Party. >> >> Then, after I was already on the ballot, the State Committee voted 6-5 >> not to recognize my candidacy. >> >> So, the problem obviously goes back to that time. >> >> I am not aware of any promises that I have failed to keep. >> >> Sam Sloan >> > >
