Bob, I don't know where in your copy of the US Constitution you find the authority to torture, or indefinite imprisonment, or even the "nation building" (somehow shooting up wedding parties and hospitals qualifies as nation building) efforts as in Afghanistan, Iraq or Pakistan. Perhaps you could enlighten us? That section seems to be missing from my copy.
BTW, our continued atrocities such as the above mentioned shooting up of wedding parties and hospitals WILL have an effect on you...or your children, someday. PEACE Steve On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Bob Giramma <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Here's why Obama is worse than Bush: You cite "horrific acts" at Gitmo and > negative consequences related to the liberation of Iraq. But I'm an > American, not an al Qaeda terrorist, nor an Iraqi. I live in the US, and I > care mostly about myself, my family, my business, and my job. > > While I'm made to fund the adventures in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and > Gitmo, those are connected with constitutional powers, and they represent a > very tiny percentage of my tax bill. The effect on me is small. > > The welfare state, championed by Democrats like Obama, take far more of my > money and inflict a much heavier burden on the economy I use. And now Obama > and the Democrats want to take over even more of the economy, including > healthcare. The infringement on the liberty of all Americans is enormous. > > So I strongly believe Obama is far worse than Bush in terms of the net > effect on my personal liberty. > > From: Peter > Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 12:38 PM > To: [email protected] <Libertarian%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [Libertarian] PRESS RELEASE: Obama's Health-Care Speech Was a > Series of Smoothly Polished Lies > > > What sickens me is that Obama in reality is no worse than Bush. Yet so > many "Libertarians" are popping out of the woodwork that Obama is > Hitler. If Obama is Hitler, then Bush was Stalin. Where were these > "Libertarians" then? > > It's a double standard, and too many of these "Libertarians" are really > Conservatives or Republicans distorting the Libertarian title. > > Example: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/8250803.stm > > Further to the point, Obama is NOT Hitler and Bush was NOT Stalin. To > say so is diminishes who Hitler and Stalin were, and is demeaning to all > the victims who died horrific deaths and were persecuted by these two. > Even if you sum up the horrific acts at Guantanamo, the US run Iraqi > Prisons, and the Iraq invasion, it palls in comparison to what Hitler or > Stalin did. None of this justifies it, but Hitler and/or Stalin killed > more people in a week than Bush will have in his lifetime. > > MotherLodeBeth wrote: > > > > > > > > Name one program the feds do where there is no waste.? If its not their > > money they have no desire to watch costs and waste.? And I can see your > > point re Jeremiah Wright, but my thinking is, one should be judged by > > the company they keep.? Now I don't hang out with my pastor, but like > > most pastors they serve the church and as such do weddings, baptisms, > > funerals.? Don't recall the Obamas hanging our with Wright.??? ~Beth~ > > > > Original Message----- > > From: Harland Harrison > > > > It's great to read Libertarian candidates taking a stand in the health > > care debate. However, I wonder if you really believe the article below. > > Did Obama claim he was doing "minor, incremental tinkering"? Shouldn't? > > Medicare cut > > waste?? Would a refusal by the government to pay for ineffective medical > > treatment amount to a "death panel"?? Do you fault Obama for what a > > preacher?says?? Is he responsible for what somebody else thinks, or does > > he fail the > > "religious test for office" by setting foot in the wrong church?? Tere > > is plenty wrong with the Democrats' programs.? Libertarians don't have > > to help the Republicans spread lies and false charges. > > > > ?? > > ?? > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > Introducing Branchr > > Super Simple Advertising > > > http://click.lavabit.com/?pub=78&ad=0023&url=aHR0cDovL2JyYW5jaHIuY29tLw== > > < > http://click.lavabit.com/?pub=78&ad=0023&url=aHR0cDovL2JyYW5jaHIuY29tLw==> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
