Ed,

I believe you just cancelled out your own position by unknowingly
calling it a "SUBJECTIVE individual value judgement". While you
initially claimed to be making an objective judgment about the
purpose of life (implying an irrefutable judgment), your own
later elaboration explained that it could be nothing more than a
"SUBJECTIVE individual value judgement". (You apparently forgot
that you are an individual.)

But still, let's look at some of your other points. 

Your "final analysis" about short life-spans of individuals
supporting reproduction as the "purpose of life" is actually only
a "single analysis". How do you know that the reverse could not
be a "better analysis"? How do you know that reproduction isn't
only a "process" to another grand purpose; the individual? How do
you know that the species is not merely a mechanism for the
INDIVIDUAL? I'm afraid we are back to seeing your preference to
prioritize the collective (species) over the individual unit
(person) as nothing more than a "SUBJECTIVE individual value
judgement". 

Regarding what you don't understand, including Natural Selection:
It was you who claimed that one of the main purposes of life was
species improvement. While much evidence disproves your
"improvement" argument, even MORE evidence disproves your
argument that insuring the survival-to-birth of all fetuses
supports species "improvement". I think the only kind of "species
improvement" ever recognized by evolutionists was the kind that
came from Natural Selection. We have advanced beyond the stage of
Natural Selection into one more aptly called "artificial
selection". NS was a terrible stage of our development. The only
mechanism of NS was DEATH (only the strongest survived long
enough to reproduce, and the weaker were "weeded out"). Therefore
it is certain that artificially insuring the survival of all
fetuses would NOT serve to "improve the species".  

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As I said, the issue of abortion is complicated and positions
cannot be expressed in one-liners, short emails, or even longer
ones. I just didn't (and don't) have the time to work up a
complete explanation and cover all issues in a simple response.
At least, though there is a basis for discussion and, as opposed
to Rand and her Randroids, I'm willing to discuss and alter my
opinions.

So, eating and defecating are not purposes but processes.

I do not deny individual instincts. I claim that individual human
instincts and conscious decisions to action clearly exist and
motivate individuals. My claim is that the only OBJECTIVE purpose
that I can discover for "life" is reproduction and improvement of
the species. This is demonstrated by looking OBJECTIVELY at the
actions of all living things and trying to deduce a purpose
behind them. Clearly, actions of individuals may have, and do
demonstrate, other purposes but these are not OBJECTIVE purposes
but SUBJECTIVE. In other words, the purpose is determined by
individual value judgements.

In the final analysis, the individual instinct to survive is
inevitably a short term purpose. No one survives forever. That is
an objective fact that cannot be denied. Therefore, the "meaning
of life" or it's "purpose" cannot be the individual instinct to
survive as that is OBJECTIVELY impossible.

I don't understand your second paragraph. You say, "the only real
way to said "improvement" basically went out with Natural
Selection". I do not eliminate natural selection. Indeed, I do
not say that the state should prevent abortions. I just say that
the MORAL choice is to protect one's child. This is a general
statement and subject to exceptions based on situations. Indeed,
one could argue that it is natural to select for survival those
progeny whose parents ARE willing to make greater sacrifices for
their survival.

I completely disagree that "survival-to-parturition of all
pregnancies generally serves to WEAKEN the species". Natural
selection and evolution work best when there are a LOT of choices
to be made. It is a process of chance, NOT one of determinism.
Your statement to the contrary is "neither logical nor
BIOlogical." You clearly do not understand what natural
selection, the basis of evolution, is.

Ed$


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