You make a logical argument, Sasan, but your definition of "Due Process" is 
wrong.  Due Process includes standards of fairness which courts have defined 
through the centuries, known as the "Common Law".  When politicians can change 
the rules, they violate Due Process.

For example,  trial by jury remains at the heart of the legal system which the 
US inherited from England.  A jury of their neighbors should simply find those 
Saturday night poker players not guilty in the interests of justice.   But in 
the US, governments keep jurors from knowing that juries can "nullify" any law. 
 The jurors very well might convict the poker players despite sympathizing with 
them.

An independent judiciary is another aspect of Due Process.  Judges serve 
"during good behavior", often for life.  The revolving door of political 
appointments and lobbying should not influence judges.   Philosophically, the 
judiciary descends from royalty.  The king remains impartial because he is not 
the servant of anybody else.  When the US government planned to put torture 
victims in Guantanamo on trial before military officers appointed for that 
purpose,  the plan violated Due Process.

Another feature of Due Process is a single, predetermined,  court of 
jurisdiction.  The government cannot shop for a "hanging judge" somewhere in 
the country.  The Constitution, Article III Section 2, says that only Congress 
can pass a law to decide where crimes outside the country are going to be 
tried.  When the White House plans to move "terrorist" trials at all,  they 
violate Due Process and the Constitution as well.

Trial before punishment is the most basic aspect of Due Process.  The US 
government now claims the right to declare people "terrorists" without any 
judicial proceeding at all.  The US government also claims the right to murder 
them and everybody nearby in a neutral country by a secret attack.  The US 
government is killing men, women, and children, in Pakistan, by remote control 
aircraft operated from Nevada.  The bragged about it on "60 minutes" while 
pretending, officially, that they know nothing about it.

These excesses of the US government, and the ones you describe,  are real,  but 
they are not the result of Due Process.  Rather,   they are the result of 
politicians violating Due Process rights,  and violating the very framework of 
laws which elected them.

Harland Harrison
LP of San Mateo County CA




----- Message d'origine ----
De : Sasan <[email protected]>
À : [email protected]
Envoyé le : Jeu 28 Janvier 2010, 16 h 32 min 27 s
Objet : [Libertarian] "Without Due Process..."

"...criminals would roam free and innocents would be lynched."

Before I address this common argument for a government Justice monopoly, first
allow me to give my own definition of Due Process: a standardized method for
determining guilt and punishing offenders according to law. This process is
enforced by governments and the applicable laws are written by governments.

Critics of Freedom like to point out that without Due Process there would be
injustice in the world. Some criminals would never answer for their crimes. Some
innocents would be wrongfully punished. This is absolutely true, and I'm not
going to fool myself into thinking that a Free Market in Justice would solve
this issue completely.

We also hear stories about a time before there was the concept of Due Process,
when a ruler could arbitrarily decide who would be punished and how severely. 
This is also true, but is Due Process really the antidote for this Tyranny?

Let's assume, for a moment, that a government is capable of providing a perfect
legal system of Due Process. Everyone who violates a law is held accountable.
Everyone who doesn't violate a law goes free. No mistakes. That's Justice,
right?

Well, not really. For that "perfect" system to be truly just, you would have to
make a very outlandish assumption: the laws that we are judged by are
themselves just.

Let me put this another way: what's the point of fair treatment under the law if
the laws do not accurately identify criminal behavior?

For example, if I were to invite some friends to my home for a low-stakes game
of poker, I would be in violation of an unjust law. Under Due Process, police
officers can legally kick down my door and kidnap everyone in the room. Even
though I violated the law, and the officers acted completely within the law, was
justice served?

What was the bigger threat to society --- my illegal poker game or the legal
home invasion?

Since most libertarians would agree that the overwhelming majority of current
laws are unjust, what we actually get with Due Process is INJUSTICE ON AN
INDUSTRIAL SCALE. A fair trial is meaningless if you can be convicted of
violating laws that shouldn't exist. Even worse, a fair trial gives the ILLUSION
that justice has been served, which helps to perpetuate this destructive
process.

Besides systematically punishing the innocent, Due Process also provides
protection for real criminals. Think about the police officer who spends his
nights assaulting and kidnapping peaceful people, or the soldier whose
profession is to commit murder on command. Because these career criminals are
acting in accordance with the law, Due Process actually shields them from
justice.

As you can see, Due Process has nothing to do with real Justice; it is a
powerful tool for Injustice. Like all government attempts at Central Planning,
it has backfired in a catastrophic way and has achieved exactly the opposite of
its intended purpose.

---Sasan



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