Goat, this is the most eloquently written and honest assessment of the "land ownership" fallacy that I have read in ages.
May I share it with my parents? My father would love to read it ... he's a 79-year-old fanatic liberal (although he's not on this group, and that is why I am asking permission to share it with him). He'd love to leave the country right now, but he and mom are of an age where this is not feasible for them :=(( ... I'll be the one to fulfill that dream for him after he and mom have gone on to their greater reward. ~~ Suz-Q ~~ * COUNTDOWN CLOCK: http://tinyurl.com/cyvew * Presidential Quiz: http://tinyurl.com/nyrro * The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him. --- G.W.B. 9/13/01 * I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority. --- G.W.B. 3/13/02 * http://www.freedomtofascism.com * http://www.thankyoustephencolbert.org * http://www.itmfa.com * http://tinyurl.com/hx5u2 * http://tinyurl.com/9f7xk * http://iraqforsale.org * http://tinyurl.com/hvyhw * Interactive: http://tinyurl.com/cc3du * It's a secret!: http://tinyurl.com/obh35 * http://tinyurl.com/ewc2x * Mark Twain: Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself. * http://tinyurl.com/jm96g * http://tinyurl.com/cfsrc -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 01:39:42 -0000 Subject: LibertyIsland Digest Number 656 Message 1. Question about American History and industrial development... long Posted by: "goat!" [EMAIL PROTECTED] goatmoag Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:00 am (PST) Well, it is nice you agree somewhat on the first issue of land, which is directly related to issue two that you disagree with. Number one, having license to do something, is not the same thing as having the freedom to do something. Now think of all the things you need license and permits (that word should be obvious in itself) to do. Now, as far as the land issue, the reason that it was so important, is because most people could not own land, even the nobility in most cases, did not own their land, though they did own out right some of it that the king GRANTED them right to. That is what made them part of the nobility, because they had land that they could stand on and thumb their nose at the rest of the world if they wanted (though it certainly didn't preclude somebody from taken it by force, including the king, and certainly kings did take land by law, and then confiscated it by force if necessary, if he thought he could), but at that point in time, they (those who lost their land) were basically landless, unless they had other freeholds (that word should also give some clue, though even freehold has become less with regulation, to the point that it is little more then a serfage, then an absolute title, which is the highest form of title one can have, and is absolute. The only way to take it away from somebody, is by force, unless one has degraded the title by mortgaging it or entering it into some other contract that would allow it to be attacked at law). ... ... Our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor. Goat olushola wrote: >> I'd argue that the main thing that made this country was >> land in the hands of the many, and in fact that was >> what most came for to begin with... > > Yes private land ownership was (and is) enticing, especially considering how little of it there was in Europe. The constitution is unique in that it gives one's home a certain degree of soverneignty (however the no-knock law is changing that). ... >>> ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/KlSolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Freedom exists only on the frontier It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong. -Voltaire [François Marie Arouet] (1694-1778) An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens." -- Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826) "As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." ...H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/libertarianisland/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
