On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Roy Stogner <royst...@ices.utexas.edu>wrote:

>
> On Thu, 2 Aug 2012, Roy Stogner wrote:
>
>  On Thu, 2 Aug 2012, Cody Permann wrote:
>>
>>  I'll see what I can do.  That rectangle example is actually the most
>>> complicated one in the bunch!  it is using subdomain restricted
>>> terms, but I think the problem shows up even in simpler examples.
>>>
>>
>> I've managed to duplicate the problem with adaptivity_ex5; a simpler
>> example would be greatly preferable but I think I can get a handle on
>> it from this if necessary.
>>
>
> After the fixes in r5916 I can no longer get any bugs to crop up;
> would you see if that works for your regression tests as well?
>

Sure thing - I'll check and get back to you!

>
> If not, feel free to revert to before the broken code for now;
> "periodic + threading is horribly broken" would still be vastly
> preferable to "periodic is subtlely broken".  But if the new code is
> still broken, I'd definitely still appreciate if you could come up
> with a simple test case triggering the breakage.
>
> So I tried a bit today and I really had a tough time producing the problem
with square domains.  The problem showed up quite a bit more with more
interesting transformations.  The one rectangle I sent this morning was it,
but even that was solving for two variables on overlapping subdomains
(don't know why that mattered).  If I can come up with something simpler, I
will get it to you.


> Also: how helpful would it be for you guys if I find time to finish
> fixing the threading+periodic combination?


This would be immensely helpful!  One area that MOOSE is being used for
extensively is Meso-scale modeling.  Many of these sims are run on periodic
domains and at this point, we have lots of physics active on those domains.
 The ability to run threaded+periodic bcs reliably, will be of extreme
importance as we scale up these problems to run on the clusters.

My motivation here was
> merely "there's an all-too-common race condition that's screwing up
> our buildbot results", and since I'm swamped with work right now I
> left the fix in a state of "there's a race condition that I can
> see in theory and that might be risky in 3D but that never seems to
> trigger in 2D tests".  But 90% of the work is done and the other 10%
> would be higher up on my priorities if I knew it would be put to use.
>

I can't stress how important this is for us, if we can support you in any
way in finishing this up, we'll make that happen.


>
> And as an aside: what's this about "when MOOSE goes open-source"?  Any
> solid time frame there?
>

Perhaps sooner than later?  It's a big step for the Idaho National
Laboratory.  Our lab has never produced an Open-Source package before, so
our legal and licensing people are fairly green in this area.  We are
working hard to make it a reality.

Cody


> ---
> Roy
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