Hi Ben, 

     I use a constant time step of 0.05 sec with a backwards Euler implicit 
time scheme. Of course, the local CFL increases to large numbers as the mesh is 
refined, since I do not change the time step. 

     Do you typically change the time step post refinement? Or use local time 
stepping? 

     The farfield  boundary conditions I use are based on the Reimann 
invariants, so I account for the components of flux coming in versus leaving 
the flow domain via splitting the Jacobian. The solid wall boundary conditions 
are enforced implicitly by modifying the flux at the wall through v \dot n = 0 
(I am working with inviscid flow), and then I create a Jacobian for the 
modified flux term. So, I don't think this could be an issue. 


Jed:   I am curious about your comment on lack of conservation of the GLS 
schemes. I did a bit of search and came across the following two papers. They 
make a case for conservation properties of the methods. I am curious what you 
think. 

Hughes, T. J. R., Engel, G., Mazzei, L., & Larson, M. G. (2000). The Continuous 
Galerkin Method Is Locally Conservative. Journal of Computational Physics, 
163(2), 467–488. doi:10.1006/jcph.2000.6577

Abstract:  We examine the conservation law structure of the continuous Galerkin 
method. We employ the scalar, advection–diffusion equation as a model problem 
for this purpose, but our results are quite general and apply to 
time-dependent, nonlinear systems as well. In addition to global conservation 
laws, we establish local con- servation laws which pertain to subdomains 
consisting of a union of elements as well as individual elements. These results 
are somewhat surprising and contradict the widely held opinion that the 
continuous Galerkin method is not locally conser- votive.

Hughes, T. J. R., & Wells, G. N. (2005). Conservation properties for the 
Galerkin and stabilised forms of the advection–diffusion and incompressible 
Navier–Stokes equations. Computer Methods in Applied Mechanics and Engineering, 
194(9-11), 1141–1159. doi:10.1016/j.cma.2004.06.034

Abstract: A common criticism of continuous Galerkin finite element methods is 
their perceived lack of conservation. This may in fact be true for 
incompressible flows when advective, rather than conservative, weak forms are 
employed. However, advective forms are often preferred on grounds of accuracy 
despite violation of conservation. It is shown here that this deficiency can be 
easily remedied, and conservative procedures for advective forms can be 
developed from multiscale concepts. As a result, conservative stabilised finite 
element procedures are presented for the advection–diffusion and incompressible 
Navier–Stokes equations.


Manav



On Apr 18, 2013, at 7:25 AM, "Kirk, Benjamin (JSC-EG311)" 
<[email protected]> wrote:

> On Apr 17, 2013, at 11:28 PM, "Manav Bhatia" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>>> It's usually preferable to order your unknowns so that the fields are
>>> interlaced, with all values at a node contiguous.
>> 
>> I will certainly give these a shot tomorrow. Do you know if these require 
>> any other modification in my code/libMesh, or providing the command line 
>> options would be enough?
> 
> Jed's commas line option should work for older versions of libMesh, but if 
> you are using 0.9.0 or newer the interlaced variables should be automatic if 
> the DofMap properly discovers one "VariableGroup"
> 
> What types of CFL numbers are you running at?
> 
> My experience with compressible navier stokes (without mulrigrid) is that 
> convergence is usually very good provided the numerical time step is less 
> than the characteristic time of the flow (l_ref/U_ref). Going much higher 
> than that for supersonic flows can give fits unless the boundary conditions 
> are linearized perfectly. Given that the subsonic bcs are more complex I 
> thought I'd mention this. 
> 
> -Ben
> 

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