On Apr 18, 2013, at 9:49 AM, Roy Stogner <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, 18 Apr 2013, Manav Bhatia wrote:
> 
>>    I use a constant time step of 0.05 sec with a backwards Euler
>>    implicit time scheme. Of course, the local CFL increases to
>>    large numbers as the mesh is refined, since I do not change the
>>    time step.
>> 
>>    Do you typically change the time step post refinement? Or use
>>    local time stepping?
> 
> I don't know how well Ben's and my experiences will carry over to your
> code - we're using SUPG rather than GLS, so we ought to be getting a
> better conditioned matrix at the cost of more finicky stability.
> Don't GLS matrix condition numbers grow like h^-4 instead of h^-2?

Well you did say inviscid, correct?  Then I would think the discretizations 
would be equivalent - modulo your choice of tau.  Which is what exactly?

> But with that in mind: I definitely reduce the time step
> post-refinement, and not just by a factor of 2.  Otherwise it gets too
> hard for our scheme to handle sudden sharpening of shocks in
> hypersonic real gas flows.  Usually our adaptive time stepper ramps up
> the time step afterwards pretty aggressively, though, successfully.
> Also, problems with no shock or with no sensitive chemistry are more
> robust.

If you have shocks, this is very important.  The problem is that for inviscid 
flows shocks are self-similar under refinement - if you smear the shock over 
three cells on the coarse grid, you expect it will be smeared over three cells 
on the fine grid too.  When you interpolate the coarse->fine, at the first time 
step your shock will be spread across 3->6 cells, and a large disturbance will 
develop there that has to be dealt with.  This is why we often reduce the time 
step immediately after refinement.

-Ben


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