Dear Vikram,

Well. Just now I recognized that as for the form pressure force you are right.
Since I want to get the lift and drag which are applied by the air flow onto 
the solid airfoil,
the pressure form should be of positive. while in the original N-S equation
there is a negative one which means the force applied from solid to the gas, as 
opposite.

In the same way, I think the contribution of viscosity onto the lift and drag
should also be negative, since in the original N-S form it is positive. Right?
 
-----原始邮件-----
发件人: "Vikram Garg" <[email protected]>
发送时间: 2015-04-27 16:32:10 (星期一)
收件人: Zhang <[email protected]>
抄送: libmesh-users <[email protected]>
主题: Re: [Libmesh-users] calculation of aerodynamic forces and moments


Hey Zhang,
                   Yes, the get_normals() function will return the outward 
normal vectors. 


You had mentioned that force on the airfoil was given by: 
\vec{F}=\sum_{qpface_bound} {\tau*normal -normal*p_{qp}} *Jxw_face_bound[qp] . 
Should that be a \tau*normal  + normal*p_{qp}} ?


Thanks.


On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 11:07 PM, Zhang <[email protected]> wrote:
I just made some correction, say, since pressure is defined in a space one order
lower than velocity. In the last code I put all quadrature computation in 
velocity space by mistake,
now I put the two integrals, $\int \tau * normal$ and $\int (-p)*normal$, into 
two separate
sections and finally add their partial integral together.

Here are the comparison (for only pressure forces)
1) np=1 // the old one
step 9, forces: (-1.299297e-01 3.460514e-03 0.000000e+00 )
step 9, moments: (0.000000e+00 0.000000e+00 7.266930e-05 )
2) np=1 // the corrected one
step 9, forces: (-1.799026e-01 -3.255020e-06 0.000000e+00 )
step 9, moments: (0.000000e+00 0.000000e+00 -9.115135e-07 )
3) np=4 // the corrected one
step 9, forces: (-1.799026e-01 2.098503e-06 0.000000e+00 )
step 9, moments: (0.000000e+00 0.000000e+00 5.020619e-07 )

when AOA=0.0 degree, the lift and z-pitching moment are dramatically reduced to 
zero.

Now the question is the negative x-force. In the face quadrature, does
fe_pres_face->get_normals()
return all outward normal vector?


Zhenyu
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