That is what I mean by convinctions. Stand up for what you beleive and make the other side fight. The Republicans do not do that. They just give up give the Dems what they want and go home to get ready for their fundraising parties. I want to see them do EVERYTHING possible to get the changes they CLAIM to want. I am sure they would get more if they did as you describe below. They might even start getting my votes. But they won't because they do not truly beleive in smaller government.
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 04:20:47 -0600, Bill Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2004-10-11 at 00:33, Travis Pahl wrote: > > > > > Also what is so special about this area of texas that resulted in a > > libertarian being elected that is not present in the other 220+ > > republican congressional districts in the nation? > > > > > >> tax cuts, medical insurance reform because that was > > > >> the only way to get 60 votes in the Senate? > > > > > > >You only need 50% when you have the president on your side. > > > > > > Not against a filibuster. Senate rules, you know. > > > > makes it more difficult, but not unattainable. Convictions in what > > you beleive you know. > > If 40 people are against your bill, convictions won't change that fact. > if the opposition filibusters, you have to convince 60 members of the > senate to break it ... and even then cloture doesn't stop it it merely > says debate will stop and the motion completed in 30 hours. > > But I say make 'em actually filibuster. > > > > >> Are we really better off that > > > >> tort reform still languishes in the Senate or that the various anti-2nd > > > >> Amendment laws remain on the books because the laws rolling them back > > > are > > > >> stalled in the Senate? > > > > > > >A senate with how many republicans? > > > > > > Not 60. > > > > If they need 60 to get it done, then they are simply not effective and > > should be replaced. > > > Yes and no. 60 is the number of votes for cloture you need to stop a > filibuster, Each bill can be filibustered twice: once to proceed with it > and once to vote on it. What they need is the balls to MAKE them > filibuster. Lately one side says they will filibuster, but they don't > actually do it. They use the threat of it. If I were on the opposing > side, I'd make them stand and speak. That would cut down the filibuster > threat. Few current Senators have the capacity to stand and orate for > long periods of time, etc.. > > Further, most legislation is held up in committees, not the Senate > proper. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Libnw mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://immosys.com/mailman/listinfo/libnw > http://immosys.com/mailman//pipermail/libnw > _______________________________________________ Libnw mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://immosys.com/mailman/listinfo/libnw http://immosys.com/mailman//pipermail/libnw
