I know I responded to this already, but apparently I wasn't finished.
Something was still percolating in my brain. So here it is.
On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 01:34 -0500, Dr. E. Douglas Sheets wrote:
> Mr. Laird:
>
> You wrote:
>
> >Once again! I'll have to take some additional time tomorrow and study this
> in greater detail, as I am simply exhausted after a marathon 80+ hour week
> of work. However, this is fascinating! I promise to return later.
>
> Please don't return back if your purpose is only to further subvert
> libertarian dialogue
> with religious bigotry and nonsense such as the China Doll crap you posted
> earlier.
> There are better sources or venues you can spam on than a Libertarian group
> which,
> as it appears, after my long absence, has become nothing more than a spam
> ground
> for religious zealots and other extremists that detract from what this group
> once was.
>
> I have to appeal to Frank here whether or not he will allow this crap from
> you, and others to continue.
>
> Don't get me wrong here people.
>
> BOTH GROUPS have been taken over entirely by zionist jewish groups promoting
> Hanikka!
> Check them out before you blast me back, please!
No, I won't. Why? Because what is going on on the otehr forums is their
business, and bears no relation to what is going on here, or should be.
If your idea can't compete, tough!
I really do see this as a microcosm. Clearly you don't like the ideas
put forth by others. OK, that is certainly your right and prerogative;
and I don't begrudge it to you.
But let us look at what you are doing. You are appealing to an authority
to stop the posting of the ideas you don't like. You proceed to do so
using name-calling, and wild accusations about bigotry.
>
> Mr. Laird is doing that right now here on libnw, talking about religious
> history
> and bigotry-oriented crap about Christmas.
No, had you RTFA, you would have seen a comparison of wars, not a damned
word about Christmas. And barely any mention of religion.
Further, David's story had no religious overtones whatsoever. At most
you could claim it had a moral story to tell. But what story was that?
Seems to me the moral is "Don't get hopped up on meth and beat your
kids."
What the bloody hell is wrong with that, Mr. Sheets?! I don't know
anyone who is a libertarian that will disagree with that! Punishing your
children for doing bad things is one thing, but beating them because you
get stoned is an wrongful initiation of force in the worst way. And that
makes it as far from being a libertarian accepted thing as you can get.
Further, religious history is heavily political, whether you admit it or
not. Religion drove much of European history as well as playing a key
point in American history. And Frank will attest to that on this forum;
he has laid a Christian claim to much of libertarian thought in the past
on this very list.
If Frank were to try to put a stop to it being done by others but not
himself, I'd predict the death of this list in very short order. Indeed
if Frank were to ban it for the rest of us his hypocrisy would be
complete and intolerable. I'd politely inform him of his new need to
find a new host for the list. I could not in good conscience allow such
a list to be hosted on my servers.
But I won't hold my breath that he'll do that. Frank has demonstrated a
lot of hypocrisy in the last few years, but not on the order that the
action you propose would be. Even given the last few years, I don't see
him rising to that level.
OK, I think it's out of my system now. I suspect if Frank reads this and
realizes I just preemptively defended him, he'd probably be quite
shocked. ;^)
Cheers,
Bill
--
Random Fortune of the moment:
Old Barlow was a crossing-tender at a junction where an express train
demolished an automobile and its occupants. Being the chief witness, his
testimony was vitally important. Barlow explained that the night was dark,
and he waved his lantern frantically, but the driver of the car paid
no attention to the signal.
The railroad company won the case, and the president of the company
complimented the old-timer for his story. "You did wonderfully," he said,
"I was afraid you would waver under testimony."
"No sir," exclaimed the senior, "but I sure was afraid that durned
lawyer was gonna ask me if my lantern was lit."
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