None of the comments below were mine. Doris Gordon, Libertarians for Life LFL's Web site: http://www.L4L.org We use philosophy and science to show why abortion is a wrong -- an injustice -- not a right
----- Original Message ----- From: "Conster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: spk.liberty_nw To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 10:15 PM Subject: Re: Libertarian Idealism vs. Neo-Conservatism > Hello All, > > On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 04:57:14 -0500, "Doris Gordon" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> > No human being has the right -- under any circumstances -- to initiate > >force against another human being, nor to advocate, threaten or delegate its > >initiation > I disagree with this as there has to be more to the statement. I think > if someone is brewing up a bunch of Meth in the apartment next door to > me, plus selling to the youngest people they can find, thus allowing > people under age to become adults of age, should we find said Meth > brewer, they should be taken straight to jail, do not pass go, given a > minimum sentence of exactly a year in the most rotten jail (Ritzville > Runs pretty close for lack of amenities for those staying with them. > With a Years + one they then have the luxuries of prison, where they > can get their AAS is Computer skills and no doubt chemistry to further > their trade when they get out. > > >> So, if a man commits fraud but does not use force, then police would be > >wrong to use force to arrest him. > > Most cops wouldn't unless he resisted arrest. Cops don't beat on > anyone unless it's Rodney King and the tape receding the beating has > carefully been omitted to see why stupid ass Rodney didn't get down to > begin with. If I was innocent and a cop told me to hip the dirt, I > would do so even with my knees and back being what they are. They > would have their reasons and I wouldn't consider it a harsh thing. I > would really like to know the entire truth about Rodney, a known thug, > who ended up getting the best seats at a baseball game. I wonder what > would have happened had Rodney been a white man dressed in a suit > getting beaten. Most say he never would have gotten beaten. Wrong. Ol' > Rodney did something to really piss off some cops and I don't believe > it was a matter of racism, as I remember there were some black cops > there as well. > > > > Politics is about using the right language and clear concepts. > >> > >> Is "initiation of force" really the right language? > > What is the RIGHT language? Does this mean that we must all bow to the > manners of Politically Correct? I refuse to even begin to do it. I say > what I want in the way that I want. In that, I'm prepared for the > onslaught of being called a bigot or whatever one feels.However, if > *I* enjoy watching Black Comedy, which I very much enjoy, every other > word is Nigga... slightly translated from Nigger.. And people who are > black laugh their butts off. Check out the movie "8 Mile" a story by > a white rapper who had to break into the black scene to earn his > right to be a white rapper. Hell, I could be a right rapper. It's > basically making rhyming statements. I learned that in grade school. > > > >Doris Gordon, Libertarians for Life > >LFL's Web site: http://www.L4L.org > >We use philosophy and science to show why > >abortion is a wrong -- an injustice -- not a right > > Hmmm, that is something to think about... Philosophy and science to > show why abortion is wrong? Too bad the little fetus doesn't have a > point where they could ask it what it wants to do. Do a human have > a right to live? Is a fetus human? Hard call to some, not to others. > _______________________________________________ > Libnw mailing list > [email protected] > List info and subscriber options: http://immosys.com/mailman/listinfo/libnw > Archives: http://immosys.com/mailman//pipermail/libnw > _______________________________________________ Libnw mailing list [email protected] List info and subscriber options: http://immosys.com/mailman/listinfo/libnw Archives: http://immosys.com/mailman//pipermail/libnw
