Good evening again, Dave!

The subject line on this thread probably ought to be changed,
since we seem now to be discussing government socialized
medicine, rather than anything moving in the direction of the
U.S. aggression against Iraq. So, I've changed the subject line
to reflect more of a new thread that you, and Dr. Tame have
entertained here. Nevertheless,

Dave Laird wrote, in part, to Dr. Chris R. Tame...

Dr. Tame originally wrote to you:
> > Laughable. You do not have a free market in medicine the USA. You have a
> > corporatised, restrictionist and guild protectionist system.

To which, you replied:
> My point exactly.

I suppose I have to wonder, based upon several other comments
that you posted, that you might believe that government solutions
might find a way to be fine tuned and clean up this stinking,
sordid mess in 'health care'?  Your comments upon which Dr. Tame
posted his remarks seems to indicate that you probably agree that
'government' hasn't done a very good job in cleaning up the
health care system in the U.S., particularly insofar as more and
more individuals find themselves outside of the loop due to the
forced structures imposed mostly by government in the first
place.

I would agree with that. Probably Dr. Tame might even sign on to
that, with the reservation being that government could never
possibly create such a utopia in which everyone had carte blanc
access to unlimited medical care unconditionally, nor would a
government rationing scheme be acceptable, that is, providing
care in such a way that people are left out of elective medical
choices based upon law prohibiting private choices.

Canada has such a government mandated scheme in place, which is
why on any given day, hundreds or thousands of Canadians cross
over the border into the U.S. to obtain elective medical care in
the U.S. that is either unavailable, or patients are placed on a
very long and unacceptable waiting list, by law, in Canada. 
Government controlled nationalized medical care has devestated
Canada's once high standards of high quality medical care.  In
fact, many Canadian Doctors, and others in the medical fields,
have migrated to the U.S. and are practicing medicine in THIS
country as a result of the draconian nature of Canada's
socialized medical standards.

Ironically, many Americans are now migrating into Mexico to
receive medical care that the U.S. government has prohibited in
the U.S.  

The point in all of this is that 'People' should be the ones to
make their own choices, along with their doctors, also of their
own choice, over what medical remedies and treatments and
services that they require on a free-market basis.  The costs
would be regulated mainly uponn the availablilty of supply and
demand, rather than any government control or edict restricting
or even prohibiting such choices.

It's kind of like buying milk.

When I was in the U.S. military, stationed in San Diego,
California, I crossed the border into Mexico weekly to buy
groceries which were always much cheaper, and usually of better
quality in many respects than what was available in US grocery
stores, such as raw milk, sold at the time for about $1.00 (US) a
gallon.

I elected to do that since the government in the US imposed, and
still does, rigid standards for the production of milk, and
getting license to sell raw milk on the open market is next to
impossible in California and in many, if not all, states.  You
have to forgive my indiscretions, since I worked on my uncles
dairy farm in New Mexico during my teen years, and NOTHING at all
compares with good fresh raw milk!  I can attest to that now at
the age of 56!  I'm still alive and kicking today, by the way, as
readers here probably can attest to, even though I violated the
US and several State governments and bought milk by choice
anyway!  I've done that under the table here in Idaho as well. 
No. I won't reveal the source for the farm where I bought my milk
here locally, even under the penalty of law.

Point is.  I made a personal choice, all on my own to drive to
Mexico and buy grocieries there, including milk.

This isn't so much a deviation from the subject matter over
socialized medicine as it is to getting government as far removed
as possible from medical choices that each individual has a right
to make on their own over their own free choices, and the
products, services and availability of such on a truly free
market environment.

I suppose I see a correlation here somewhere. Mainly, Canadians
are streaming into the US for medical care that is no longer
available in Canada, and BOTH Canadians and Americans are
streaming into Mexico to obtain medical care that is prohibited
in BOTH countries.  I wonder why that might be the case?  Perhaps
mandated, socialized, government into the medical choices for
each individual isn't really such a great idea after all.  Maybe
a truly free market might be the real answer (although not a
perfect one, as no utopia ever is) to overcoming the so-called
medical crisis in America.

Again, not perfect in any respect, but the best one that meets
the needs, choices and desires of the majority of citizens on any
given day.

Kindest regards,
Frank



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