John, It seems as if you have a very sensible approach. If you'd like to inquire about getting any of this unspecified OCLC data let me know. I can advocate internally for opening data for compatibility with Wikipedia projects.
Max Klein Wikipedia in Residence [email protected] +17074787023 > -----Original Message----- > From: John Mark Ockerbloom [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 4:43 PM > To: Wikimedia & Libraries > Subject: Re: [libraries] Linking from Wikipedia articles to local > library resources > > Thanks for your note. WorldCat Registry does look like a useful place > to record the library-specific data I use in my application; in fact, > I've been indexing libraries in my own databases using ISIL and OCLC > identifiers partly with the thinking that this might make it easier to > integrate with systems like the Registry down the road. > > I'm already manually consulting WorldCat Registry for some information > like identifiers, and things like probable ILS when it's not clear from > the library website. > There are some things I use that > don't seem to be captured in the Registry at this point in quite the > form I need for this application, and other things that I can't now get > at (but that OCLC seems to have); but it seems possible to bridge the > gap between our data schemes and share the data more readily. > > I don't have time at the moment to go into more detail in this message, > but I'd be happy to discuss this further when it's convenient. > > Thanks, > > John > > > > On 3/5/13 1:31 PM, Klein,Max wrote: > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: John Mark Ockerbloom [mailto:[email protected]] > >> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 7:42 PM > >> To: Wikimedia& Libraries > >> Subject: Re: [libraries] Linking from Wikipedia articles to local > >> library resources > >> > >> On 3/4/13 9:35 PM, Asaf Bartov wrote: > >>> Hi, John. > >>> > >>> This is pretty nifty! Thanks for creating it. > >>> > >>> I wonder: would it make sense to connect it to some of the open > >>> resolvers out there? (or are those only useful at the item level, > >>> whereas this produces searches?) > >> > >> It depends on how the resolver is set up. Most OpenURL resolvers > are > >> primarily designed to link to known items, whereas this is trying to > >> link to groups of items by or about someone or something. But the > >> OpenURL 1.0 specification is pretty open-ended, and could encompass > >> this sort of thing. I decided not to use it to implement this > >> particular service, but if someone's library would provide better > >> results via their OpenURL resolver than via their catalog or other > >> discovery system, I could link to it. > >> > >> (If anyone would like me to try linking to their library that way, > >> you can let me know when you request service for the library at > >> > http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/olbpcontact?type=library > >> Tell me about your wishes in the "Anything we should know ..." > >> comment space, and leave your contact details in case I have any > >> questions.) > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> John > > > > John, > > > > What a fantastic idea! Conceptually this is the (ahem) missing link, > to realign GWR (Google> Wikipedia> References) to GWL (Google> > Wikipedia> Libraries). That's the party line we've been delivering for > a long time but without software or practice to materialize the > promise. > > > > With that in mind, I quite agree with Asaf that your notion of > Forward to Libraries could benefit from using preexisting linking > technologies. With all necessary disclosure of my OCLC-partisanship I > think that instead of registering libraries through this new UPenn > database, it'd make more sense to use the already populated WorldCat > Registry[1] . There thousands of libraries are already registered with > ties into their Online Catalogs, OpenURL Resolvers, and Virtual > References. Just look at the entry for UPenn [2]. > > > > This is a tremendous proposal which is theoretically complete. I'd > really like to help volunteer time and code to make it work as best as > possible. > > > > [1] http://www.worldcat.org/registry/Institutions > > [2] http://www.worldcat.org/registry/Institutions/2583 > > > > Max Klein > > Wikipedia in Residence > > [email protected] > > +17074787023 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Libraries mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/libraries > > _______________________________________________ Libraries mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/libraries
