Thank you Jake and Patrick!
On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 10:05 PM Jake Orlowitz <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Rajene! > > Wikipedia Library wrote this summary that could easily be turned into a > slide or two: > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:The_Wikipedia_Library/Cultural_Professionals#Before_you_start:_Conflict_of_interest > ? > > Cheers, > Jake Orlowitz > Wikipedia Library > > > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 5:28 PM <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Send Libraries mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/libraries >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Libraries digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Librarians and conflict of interest (RJ Hardeman) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 17:26:53 -0400 >> From: RJ Hardeman <[email protected]> >> To: "Wikimedia & Libraries" <[email protected]>, >> [email protected] >> Subject: [libraries] Librarians and conflict of interest >> Message-ID: >> <CAGqSfwHjZA9-mDfn0QVjjDdPSB4-=YAG+JFyhzi9HgQ=Xxxn= >> [email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Hi All, >> >> Just a change of subject for this email thread. Next month, my colleague >> and I will be introducing Wikipedia to a group of librarians and wanted to >> include a slide on conflict of interest and librarians. Is there a policy >> or best practice set of guidelines that we can reference and share? >> >> Please let me know, >> >> Thank you, >> Rajene >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 05:30 Kerry Raymond <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > Yes, unfortunately the way we often promote 1Lib1Ref can leave that >> > impression (it’s cleaning-up after some lazy Wikipedians!). There are a >> > number of ways to deal with this. >> > >> > >> > >> > Firstly explain away “1 Ref”, just say that it’s asking librarians to >> take >> > a first step, and obviously we hope they will do more than 1. Tell them >> it >> > can 1Lib10Ref if they prefer. >> > >> > >> > >> > Second, the topic doesn’t have to be random. If the library has a >> > particular topic area of interest (probably something they actively >> collect >> > and are proud of), talk to them about adding citations in articles >> relating >> > to that topic area. Now your librarians are exploiting their special >> > collection material and their special expertise in that collections. >> Such >> > citations (particularly if they refer to online accessible content on >> their >> > website or at least a catalogue entry) will drive interest in the >> library >> > (and its website). Librarians like that because it provides a way by >> which >> > they can promote their special collection (without crossing the COI >> > boundary – remember [[WP:CURATOR]] says it is not COI for a GLAM to do >> > edits that relate to the content of the GLAM’s collections). >> > >> > >> > >> > The way to work with a special topic is to **not** use Citation Hunt >> but >> > rather use the tool Petscan to find the articles in their topic of >> interest >> > that need citations >> > >> > >> > >> > https://petscan.wmflabs.org/ >> > >> > >> > >> > with which you can construct a list of articles within a specific >> category >> > tree in Wikipedia (which relates to one of library’s area of interest) >> > which are intersected with the tracking category “All articles with >> > unsourced statements” (which means the article has a citation-needed >> > template in it). Note, that the documentation for most of those >> “quality” >> > tags usually mentions a tracking category (so you can look for other >> > quality issues if you want) >> > >> > >> > >> > So if your library’s special interests is Egypt, then here’s an example >> of >> > a search for citations needed in Egypt articles >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?language=en&project=wikipedia&depth=3&categories=Egypt%0D%0AAll%20articles%20with%20unsourced%20statements&ns%5B0%5D=1&search_max_results=500&interface_language=en&active_tab=&doit >> > = >> > >> > >> > >> > That query (with depth 3) produced 845 articles. But if you want more, >> try >> > depth 4 (1465 results), then 5 (2186 results), etc (the greater the >> depth, >> > the slower the execution, but you probably have more than enough with >> 845 >> > possible articles! >> > >> > >> > >> > I print these Petscan lists out, and progressively cut them up into some >> > single article strips (for the total beginner) and into some larger >> > multiple-article strips (for the not-beginner), put them in a “lucky >> dip” >> > box and let people draw out one or a group at random. Or let them choose >> > from a single big list (but get them to mark off the one they are doing >> so >> > people aren’t duplicating their effort or creating edit conflicts). >> Whether >> > or not they succeed in finding a citation, throw away that topic after >> > their attempt. Don’t let them spend too long on any one topic (there’s >> > plenty more articles if one proves difficult). It’s quite OK to focus on >> > the easy wins as it is a more positive experience for them and all >> > citations added benefit Wikipedia. (Aside, if your expert librarians >> can’t >> > find a citation in their area of special interest, it may be a hint to >> you >> > that maybe it’s time to remove that content from Wikipedia as perhaps no >> > citation does exist). >> > >> > >> > >> > If adding citations doesn’t appeal, then try away the whole >> > citation-needed idea and pursue a “let’s expand articles about your >> topics >> > of interests” or “let’s add photos from your collection” Call it >> > 1Lib1Expand or1Lib1Photo if you like. Explain that the campaign is just >> to >> > provide a focus for librarians to engage with Wikipedia. However they >> want >> > to engage is just fine. It’s all improving Wikipedia. Here’s an idea >> that >> > might appeal to other libraries: >> > >> > >> > >> > At State Library of Queensland last year, we had a sub-goal for >> 1Lib1Ref. >> > We said to ourselves that public libraries are important civic amenities >> > (and what librarian doesn’t believe that!) and that every public >> library >> > in Queensland therefore should be mentioned in the Wikipedia article for >> > that town/suburb/district. So we used >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/visit-us/find-a-public-library/browse-library-branches >> > >> > >> > >> > as our lucky dip list and the pages linked from it and also this master >> > spreadsheet of other info about all public libraries as our sources >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> http://www.plconnect.slq.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0012/388497/SLQ_StatsBulletin1617_20171109.pdf >> > >> > >> > >> > to add a few snippets about each public library (cited to the sources >> > above). We added the address of the library and who operates it and the >> > year it opened and anything special about that library that was worthy >> of >> > mention (e.g. special collections). So just a sentence or two with >> > citations. Thanks to 1Lib1Ref, we now have every Qld public library (and >> > its mobile libraries stop-off points) mentioned in the relevant >> Wikipedia >> > article. (The only catch is that it turned out that there were places >> with >> > public libraries but without Wikipedia articles – those were handed to >> me, >> > and I created a basic place article, and the library was thrown back in >> the >> > lucky dip jar when I had made the article.) Now the librarians involved >> > (about 40 of them who did about 25 edits each on average) really engaged >> > well with this; libraries are meaningful to them and so they saw value >> in >> > doing the task. When we finished doing public libraries, we started >> working >> > on lists of Qld schools (education matters to librarians too). I note >> that >> > we do 1Lib1Ref in “editathon” sessions and the librarians enjoy the >> social >> > aspect of that (although people are free to do it at their desks if they >> > prefer and many leave the editathon session with some extra lucky dip >> > topics saying they will do them at their desk or at home that night). >> OK, >> > this is not “traditional” 1Lib1Ref but let’s call it 1Lib1Lib or >> > 1Lib1School J >> > >> > >> > >> > So don’t see the format proposed for 1Lib1Ref as a straightjacket. It’s >> > just one way to engage librarians and Citation Hunt does provide a set >> of >> > tasks for the individual librarian who might be interested but who >> isn’t in >> > an outreach relationship. But if another way works better for the >> librarian >> > in an outreach situation (and particularly so if you are working with a >> > library rather than an individual librarian), then just do it that other >> > way. It’s the engagement that matters, not the format. No matter what >> they >> > do, they acquire some Wikipedia skills, which they might continue to >> use on >> > their own or be willing to use in another partnership or campaign. It’s >> a >> > first-step campaign. Once they have taken it, you need to work out what >> > step 2, 3, and 4 is for them. >> > >> > >> > >> > Kerry >> > >> > >> > >> > *“I would like*, if I may, to *take you* on a *strange journey” – Rocky >> > Horror Picture Show* >> > >> > >> > >> > *From:* Libraries [mailto:[email protected]] *On >> > Behalf Of *Paulo Santos Perneta >> > *Sent:* Monday, 17 September 2018 10:54 PM >> > *To:* [email protected] >> > *Subject:* Re: [libraries] Meeting Librarians Soon. Help! >> > >> > >> > >> > Last #1lib1ref was not successful here: The librarians we've contacted >> > were not interested in fixing references for random articles, and they >> had >> > difficulties on understanding why they should get through all the >> trouble >> > of learning to edit Wikipedia just to fulfill the objective of 1 ref per >> > librarian. >> > >> > >> > >> > Probably in the next edition we'll be reformulating the contest locally >> to >> > make it more attractive to them. >> > >> > >> > >> > Paulo >> > >> > >> > >> > Jean-Philippe Béland <[email protected]> escreveu no dia segunda, >> > 17/09/2018 à(s) 13:39: >> > >> > Hello Reem, >> > >> > >> > >> > I'm not a librarian, but what worked well with librarians here in >> Quebec, >> > Canada was the #1lib1ref campaign. We organized a little friendly >> > competition between different university and institutional libraries >> and it >> > was very successful in my opinion. We also invited students in relevant >> > university courses to participate and taught them how to add references >> to >> > Wikipedia. From what I have been told, since last year, the >> International >> > Federation of Library Association (IFLA) is actively supporting the >> > cooperation between libraries and WMF projects, especially through >> > #1lib1ref. I'm sure there are people more qualified than me on this >> mailing >> > list to explain to you what is #1lib1ref, but you can find information >> > about it on Meta-Wiki: >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikipedia_Library/1Lib1Ref. >> > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikipedia_Library/1Lib1Ref> >> > >> > >> > >> > Thank you and good luck with your meeting! >> > >> > >> > >> > Jean-Philippe Béland >> > >> > Wikimédia Canada >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 7:23 AM Reem Al-Kashif <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > >> > >> > Hello, >> > >> > Hope this finds you well. I didn't plan on meeting librarians at a >> > university here in Cairo, Egypt, but they expressed interest in >> Wikipedia, >> > so we are meeting :). The problem is, I really don't know what >> activities >> > to offer them. I have zero experience in Wiki+libraries collaborations. >> It >> > would be more than great if anybody could help me out. What I need is: >> > 1. Understanding the nature of librarians work (I know it is a big >> topic, >> > but some general remarks would do). >> > 2. Having examples of activities they can be part of to contribute to >> Wiki >> > (be it Wikipedia or Wikimedia). >> > >> > 3. Understanding how rewarding those activities are (so that I explain >> to >> > them) >> > 4. Having examples of similar activities, if any, around the world. >> > Bonus point 5. Having a clear plan of action to give them (i.e. what do >> > we do after the meeting and so on) >> > >> > Thank you so so much in advance for helping me navigate this uncharted >> > territory. >> > >> > Best, >> > Reem >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> > *Kind regards,Reem Al-Kashif* >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Libraries mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/libraries >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Libraries mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/libraries >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Libraries mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/libraries >> > >> -- >> Hi, it's RJ at Vizzylane here >> [email protected] >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/libraries/attachments/20180919/0326fe68/attachment.html >> > >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Libraries mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/libraries >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of Libraries Digest, Vol 75, Issue 15 >> ***************************************** >> > _______________________________________________ > Libraries mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/libraries > -- Hi, it's RJ at Vizzylane here [email protected]
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