I agree with your thoughts, Javier. There are many elders who are also 'kids' :)-- The Indian lexicon is for '25 Indian languages'. Best wishes, k
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 8:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Dr. Kalyanaram > > >I had earlier given a free licence to use, and submitted my Indian > Lexicon (for 25 languages) for inclusion in OLPC. > > When you say "Indian lexicon"... it means a "25 international languages > lexicon build in India" or "25 Indian languages" ??? (In Peru we have > Quechua (around 4 to 6 varieties), Aymara (I don't know if it is a unique > version, and the "Instituto de Verano" (NGO) described more than 40 other > languages in the peruvian jungle). > > >A general consensus may have to be arrived at on the availability of > basic lexical/language resources at various levels, from primary to > secondary school levels. > > Our goverment (peruvian goverment) says that this project is for primary > schools (6 to 12 years old aproximately). I don't think that we must ask > the children to return his/her dear XO once he get 12 years old... we, old > grown adults, use many kinds of devices that are small: cellullars & > palmtops are very common and we check mail, and send short messages... if we > "open the window"... why we need to close it when the kid reachs 12 years > old? (that "window" reference is without any 2nd implication! (smile) ). > > >Every prospective OLPC user is a child and will not be restricted to > children alone, particularly in, for example, the rural areas of India with > one billion population with a large percentage of illiteracy. > > uhmmm... that was I thought when I realize there will be 250,000 XOs in > Peru in the next year (40,000 are here in this moment). All of these > machines can CHANGE the whole world because they are the TOOLS to > communicate with the world. One of the big problems that will arise in 2 or > 3 years is when these machines will be used to develop VOIP (very low > bandwith needed). Communication tools they are! then they will be used as > COMMUNICATION tools without any restriction. > > Learning tool: in some areas of Peru more than 70% of the women are not > able to read, that's what official statistics show. From my personal > experience I can say that it is not rare in the isolated towns and villages > that the women are not able to speak spanish (only the men), and they have > not personal identification document (no I.D.... they don't exist for the > occidental society.. but they pay taxes: every soft drink, every beer (thats > the kind of occidental culture that we carry to those towns) has its > government tax included (VAT)). > > My conclusion: XOs are not for children only. They will be revolutionary > tool for this generation. It should be. > > Regards, > > Javier Rodriguez > Lima, Peru > > > kalyan97 wrote: > > Sorry for digressing on the subject of Dictionaries on OLPC and taking > the issue beyond Peru. I had earlier given a free licence to use, > and submitted my Indian Lexicon (for 25 languages) for inclusion in OLPC. A > general consensus may have to be arrived at on the availability of basic > lexical/language resources at various levels, from primary to secondary > school levels. Every prospective OLPC user is a child and will not be > restricted to children alone, particularly in, for example, the rural areas > of India with one billion population with a large percentage of illiteracy. > Best regards, Dr. S. kalyanaraman > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 5:02 AM, Samuel Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 2008/3/11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > I agree: some "dynamic" database will be better than a "static" > > database. > > > It is not hard to build: just add a form and some "append/sort" > > routine to > > > the main database. Easy to say! (smile)... the "upgrade/add words" > > option > > > can not be done in plain javascript (it goes against the idea that > > > javascript comes from the server and runs on the client machine in a > > typical > > > Internet connection... many security issues raise up!). So... the > > > "add/upgrade" option or form needs to feed some "php" or java or > > phyton > > > or... any other language that can be installed on the XO (I don't know > > which > > > ones are installed in this moment... which languages come installed > > with the > > > XO? Phyton and... what else? ) > > > > Effectively, just Python. > > > > > Sharing new words: how the modifications of one user can be "shared" > > with > > > the rest of the "group" or the rest of the "neighborhood" ? Possible > > > answers: > > > * The school server will collect, organize and share the "additional > > words > > > & meanings". > > > > To keep a record of all dictionary changes made by each individual, > > you will need to do something on a machine or site with a fair bit of > > memory that intends to be up for a long time. > > > > XOs will probably want a way to merge a new dictionary with their > > existing one, from the mesh, a server, or another place; it has no > > reason to store lots of changes in memory. > > > > > So we will have "english word = > > > spanish word" or "english word = english meaning" ... and many other > > > combinations: common phrases... localisms... concepts... etc. > > > > Also picture dictionaries, working in both directions (word to image, > > or image to words in various languages). > > > > > Othe names different than "words" ? > > > > Do you mean phrases? > > > > Cheers, > > SJ > > _______________________________________________ > > Library mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/library > > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe from the list, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://malayindians.blogspot.com -- for all currents news on Malaysian > Indian controversy. > > So long as the people do not care to exercise their freedom, those who > wish to tyrannise will do so; for tyrants are active and ardent, and will > devote themselves in the name of any number of gods, religious and > otherwise, to put shackles upon sleeping men. – Voltaire > > When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and > love has always won. 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