The call will be 6PM EASTERN TIME, Thursday July 10:
866-213-2185 or 609-454-9914
Access Code: 1671650#
Christoph, Seth, Greg, I (and hopefully Walter!) will discuss our
vision, and try to nail down what's realistic, for:
1. Short Term Docs, HTML, XO-Readable and Paper
2. Long Term Docs, HTML, XO-Readable and Paper
3. Kumbaya Physical Meetups/Sprints, just in case I don't meet all
~95 Support Volunteers on this 5000km roadtrip I'm currently on...
Anybody is welcome, if their phone (and thoughts!) aren't noisy. Unlike
my muffler :)
--A!
PS I'm actually in a gas station with nasty ankle-biters chewing my legs
as I type-- my muffler constructivism isn't perfect but it's done, so
off thru Kentucky heading South Without A/C :-)
Kim Quirk wrote:
Hi Adam,
Do you want to publish this call-in number? Who is invited (or not
invited)?
Which RedHat location are you near? (And I hope your vacation travels
are going well!)
If you want to keep the meeting small, then I will just send my
concerns (below) and you can provide interested parties with an update
or minutes from the discussions. I have added Greg Smith, Michael and
Jim to this email as my concerns mostly revolve around schedule:
1 - I would like something that can be provided in a final build for
8.2: The big reason for this is because of the number of complaints in
our category regarding questions on 'Getting Started'; and also
because the UI has changed enough that it is a good opportunity to
document it. In my mind, this is a high priority feature for 8.2.
2 - How do we schedule this work and make sure something is done in
time for 8.2? I think that the schedules from both SugarLabs and OLPC
need to be well-coordinated. I know Marco is trying to provide some of
that feedback into Michael, but I believe there are still some
questions, especially as it concerns activity updates. At the highest
level, we are trying to get a release out by the end of August. If a
better 'Getting Started' is going to be shipped ON the laptop is an
activity (Help Activity); then we probably need the final code for
that 2 or 3 weeks before our target ship date, which means very early
in August.
Since there are changes to how this activity would work (which I
believe Marco is working on, or has already checked in), then we
should get a 'fake' content, Help Activity as soon as possible to work
out any bugs.
3 - If your discussion are more geared towards a pdf or manual that
can be printed; then it may have a very different schedule. My
question for that is whether we expect to make this manual somehow
very easy to find (easier than the current one) -- changes in base
code versus a content dowload (.xol). And then, if we want this
content to be shipped with 8.2, then it should meet the schedule info
from above.
If you are just meeting to discuss content (which is also a good
reason to meet), then recognize that it might be good to create short
and longer term goals in order to efficiently use the knowledge of the
people providing content for both goals. Or to split the group into
short term vs longer term so that we will have something for 8.2.
Thanks,
Kim
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Adam Holt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
Christoph Derndrofer, Seth Woodworth, Greg DeKoenigsberg & I are
having a call Thursday PM to help decide what's realistic both
short term and long term. And a Friday lunch at/near Red Hat
hopefully too :)
--A!
Kim Quirk wrote:
Seth and others,
Sounds like a great idea, but it might miss 8.2 if you have to
wait until August for the sprint. We should be trying to get 8.2
out the door... not looking for last minute, new content.
Depending on where we actually are, there might be a lot of
pushback that it missed 8.2.
But I would encourage the sprint... because whenever the manual
is ready it can emailed or printed one-off for people. And it can
be included in 8.2.1 and future 8.2 releases. Also, what is the
plan for making it available and easily accessible in the UI?
We discussed a Help Activity - something we can put in the
interface, easy to find. What is the status of that? What can we
do to make that available as soon as possible? It would be great
if the same team who is going to create this FLOSS manual can
first put one-two weeks of work (in July) into updating Walter's
getting started html pages to match the new UI.
Also, my suggestion for getting the help activity into today's
build with today's GettingStarted (8.1 compatible) pages is twofold:
1 - start testing out the process to get from webpages to Help
Activity and how to make that available for download.
2 - we can point people to that TODAY for 8.1.x builds; and then
update it for 8.2 in the next few weeks (again, sooner than August).
Kim
On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Seth Woodworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
It sounds like this would be a perfect manual for inclusion
in 8.2.0. <http://8.2.0.>
According to Michael a modified getting-started might be most
best for 8.1.2 in the short term.
Seth
---------- Forwarded message ----------,
From: *David Farning* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
Date: Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 10:17 PM
Subject: [FM Discuss] Sugar users manual
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Education <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>, Samuel
Klein <meta.sj <http://meta.sj>@gmail.com <http://gmail.com>>
A introduction.
Over the past few week Adam Hyde, Anne Gentle, and I have been
discussing how FLOSS manuals and Sugar Labs can collaborate
on creating
the Sugar users manual.
I think we agree that it would be mutually beneficial to work
together.
Anne and Adam have proposed conducting a Sugar book-sprint in
August. A
book sprint is very similar to a developer sprint. Floss
manuals has
conducted several productive sprints over the past few months.
I would be very interested in bringing together the writers
from FLOSS
Manuals, OLPC and Sugar Labs to conduct a joint sprint.
Adam proposed
getting together 5-6 core writers.
The two biggest question are:
Who is interested in participating? and
What are the logistics of conducting a sprint?
Adam, do you have a rough estimate on the cost of conducting
a sprint?
Walter, Adam do you have ideas where we could get funding for
holding a
sprint?
thanks
dfarning
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