I agree. With public domain works, the electronic texts could, in theory, be revised - I am very excited about that. Improving the OCR is a big focus for IA this coming year.

We do have a review module as part of the Open Library site - we could re-instate it to work together on something like this (a much more interesting application than simply "review this book").

The efforts could be a modern day, interactive version of this book:

<http://openlibrary.org/details/rightreadingforc00welsrich/leaf33>http://openlibrary.org/details/rightreadingforc00welsrich/leaf33

(but with inline annotations)

:-)



At 11:52 AM -0800 1/20/09, Carol Farlow Lerche wrote:
We need to be aware that many of these very old children's books have some very unfortunate racist aspects about them, as well as the sexism you note. It would be good to have some way to collaboratively review these books as a guide for educators in the third world who might want to use them.

On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Rebecca Hargrave Malamud <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:

More information on PD books for kids  -

Robert Miller, Director of Books at the Internet Archive reminded me of the collection on the Archive:

<http://www.archive.org/details/iacl>http://www.archive.org/details/iacl

Many of these are replicated in Open Library, but the alternative method of classification uncovers some gems. (including the Tag Cloud)

Here are some new ones I culled working on the BPL Scan-on-Demand project:

Uncle Wiggly's Adventures
<http://openlibrary.org/olpc/embed?id=unclewiggilysadv00gari>http://openlibrary.org/olpc/embed?id=unclewiggilysadv00gari

Sea yarns for boys: spun by an old salt
<http://openlibrary.org/olpc/embed?id=seayarnsforboyss00hend>http://openlibrary.org/olpc/embed?id=seayarnsforboyss00hend

The comical creatures from Wurtemberg
<http://openlibrary.org/olpc/embed?id=comicalcreatures00plou>http://openlibrary.org/olpc/embed?id=comicalcreatures00plou

Dorothy Dainty at school
<http://openlibrary.org/olpc/embed?id=dorothydaintyats1904broo>http://openlibrary.org/olpc/embed?id=dorothydaintyats1904broo

The ABC Book
<http://openlibrary.org/olpc/embed?id=abcbook00fall>http://openlibrary.org/olpc/embed?id=abcbook00fall

Things a boy should know about electricity
<http://openlibrary.org/olpc/embed?id=thingsboyshouldk00stjo>http://openlibrary.org/olpc/embed?id=thingsboyshouldk00stjo

Handicraft for handy boys
<http://openlibrary.org/olpc/embed?id=handicraftforhan00hall>http://openlibrary.org/olpc/embed?id=handicraftforhan00hall


Best -

Rebecca Malamud


PS - I removed this from the somewhat high-trafficked Testing list - seems more approproate to the Library-OLPC - would definitely like feedback on the appropriateness of the material. Some are unfortunately gender-specific - but they are over 100 years old. I forgive the author :-)




At 5:57 PM -0500 1/15/09, Chris Leonard wrote:

These are not currently ideal for redistribution (read the terms and conditions), but maybe you can talk to UVA about some of them.



<http://etext.virginia.edu/subjects/Young-Readers.html>http://etext.virginia.edu/subjects/Young-Readers.html



cjl





On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Rebecca Hargrave Malamud <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:

Hi, Carol -


I agree! Karen Coyle (<http://kcoyle.blogspot.com/>http://kcoyle.blogspot.com/) has historically suggested that it would be good to engage some children's and young adult librarians to offer additional insight. LC has subject headings for "Juvenile literature" and "Children's literature," and there is a code in MARC for "audience level" - but they don't capture everything that one might deem appropriate for children (like "Tom Sawyer"). We could also get the audience level from ONIX records as well.


So, yes, I am in agreement - and will be fun to let users add to these collections as well!




At 10:31 AM -0800 1/15/09, Carol Farlow Lerche wrote:

Hi Rebecca -- It would be awesome to have a directory that showed reading levels for the English language books. In my efforts to provide literacy materials to emergent readers via XO (and otherwise) this is an important piece of data for the teacher to have available. It also reveals the dearth of materials suitable for emergent readers to read independently, as much of the what's available is too advanced and must be read aloud by an adult or older person.
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Rebecca Hargrave Malamud <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:

Excellent, SJ!

Someone directed me to the International Children's Digital Library (
<http://en.childrenslibrary.org/>http://en.childrenslibrary.org/ ) as a possible source for content. I
haven't contacted them yet - but will.

Also, I am working with Open Library on a partnership project with
BPL (Boston Public Library) known as Scan-On-Demand:

<http://openlibrary.org/bpl>http://openlibrary.org/bpl

There are some children's books - unfortunately, they aren't
categorized by subject (yet) - fortunately, I am redesigning that
page :-) - I am building a similar collection of the "best of" books
from what we have scanned - I will send the Library-OLPC list
anything I find -

In the meantime, feel free to queue up any books you find interesting
for scanning!

Best Regards,


Rebecca Malamud





At 3:34 AM -0500 1/15/09, Samuel Klein wrote:
A quick update about the gnubook ajax bookreader : I'm talking to the
developer, Raj Kumar about how to improve the experience on the XO.

you can test out the latest reader here:

<http://openlibrary.org/olpc/bookreader>http://openlibrary.org/olpc/bookreader

<http://github.com/openlibrary/bookreader/tree/master>http://github.com/openlibrary/bookreader/tree/master

and file feature requests and bugs here:
   <https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnubook>https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnubook

Please recommend specific books from the Internet Archive you'd like
to see tested on  the demo site; particularly from the children's
library collection and this set, many of which Rebecca has tracked
down:
> <http://openlibrary.org/details/rightreadingforc00welsrich/leaf33>http://openlibrary.org/details/rightreadingforc00welsrich/leaf33


Cheers,
SJ
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