https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113388
--- Comment #31 from `{third: "Beedell", first: "Roke"}`{.JSON5}
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(In reply to haevalencia from comment #30)
> (In reply to `{third: "Beedell", first: "Roke"}`{.JSON5} from comment #29)
> > (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #28)
> > > (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #27)
> > > > If it is to be done, needs to be well thought out and the cost in dev
> > > > effort
> > > > really examined.
> > > UX advice: Make it optional
> >
> > However, [email protected], that's obviously the problem —
> > it's a damn lot of code complexity for such little benefit, if any at all,
> > which much of the user base (especially outside specifically GNOME) wouldn't
> > ever use.
>
> A small comment here: Why do you define it as if it were a Linux issue?
> Titlebars are generally no longer used in the most used operating systems
> such as Windows and macOS. Microsoft Office or OnlyOffice among others no
> longer use titlebar.
>
> I understand that this is a huge effort and I agree that it is more
> important to polish functionalities or interoperability with the OOXML
> format, however, I think that if the titlebars disappeared and that were the
> default option, most users I wouldn't touch the settings to go back.
>
> The use of vertical space and aesthetics are things considered by the end
> user. I remember similar discussions that resisted the existence of a
> ribbon-like interface or that the first thing the user saw was the dialog
> that allows them to change the interface (I think it now appears as the
> first tip of the day, although I haven't restarted my profile in a long
> time). The end user values consistency and modern look when using an
> application unfortunately.
>
> Well, my point is that this is not something that only benefits GNOME users.
>
> Cheers
You make a good point, but it depends significantly upon the software the user
tends to use. I only know of a few applications which override the titlebar,
especially because on Windows, I use mostly WinUI applications, which although
perfectly able to use CSD, in my experience tend to not. Likewise, the few
Win32 tools I have certainly don't either, although I'm aware that MS365 and
some game launchers do for supposed aesthetic reasons. Of course, on KDE,
almost nothing does, so solely GNOME appears to at least be consistent in their
usage of it.
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