https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163121
Bug ID: 163121
Summary: “Mouse pointer as pen”: (1) a toggle to make it
permanent <-> temporary, (2) an easy way to remove
accidentally saved PEN markings from complex
multi-layered slide
Product: LibreOffice
Version: 24.8.1.2 release
Hardware: x86-64 (AMD64)
OS: Windows (All)
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Severity: normal
Priority: medium
Component: Impress
Assignee: [email protected]
Reporter: [email protected]
Created attachment 196645
--> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=196645&action=edit
Try to easily select and delete just the fresh PEN marking that is seemingly
buried beneath other objects in multi-layered slide
As described in Bug 122274: “Annotating slide with INK using PEN cursor mode
during edit session of file makes INK permanent”
(https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122274).
The workaround “If you do not want that, do not check this option, but use the
"mouse as pen" option which is available from context menu in running
presentation” (https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122274#c8,
https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/cannot-erase-pen-ink-from-slides/47502/7) does
not seem to work in LibreOffice Impress 24.8.1.2, because right-clicking the
presentation running Slide Show in Fullscreen mode on Windows 11 x64 exits the
Fullscreen mode, which interferes with presentation flow.
The solution could have been simple: manually delete all unnecessary PEN
markings after the end of the presentation. No big deal.
The problem is that in complex presentation, objects (backgrounds) are layered
on top of each other to achieve the perfect composition on a slide.
Unfortunately, LibreOffice Impress 24.8.1.2 does not seem to save PEN marking
as the foremost front layer.
Hence, it is difficult to select and delete PEN markings, without having to
delete those preexisting slide objects that somehow ended up seemingly on top
of the PEN markings.
One can reproduce the issue with the sample presentation from Bug 122274 -
“Annotating slide with INK using PEN cursor mode during edit session of file
makes INK permanent”
(https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122274), re-attached to
this bug. Try to easily select and delete the PEN marking, that is seemingly
buried beneath other objects. When all other objects are indeed deleted, and
the PEN marking is the only thing that remains on slide, it is very easy to
finally select and delete it. The goal, however, is to select just the
temporary PEN markings that accidentally ended up saved in the presentation and
delete them.
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1) Is it possible to create a practically usable, convenient way to get rid of
all PEN markings accidentally saved in the presentation?
Perhaps by making PEN markings always the foremost front layer on top of other,
pre-exisiting objects on the slide, when the PEN markings are in fact the last
objects that has been put on the slide.
As of LibreOffice Impress 24.8.1.2, it seems to be almost as difficult to
manually get rid of PEN markings in a complex multi-layered slide as it is to
clear permanent marker accidentally used on a physical whiteboard.
At the same time, pressing “e” on keyboard during the Slide Show would
temporarily clear the slide from permanently saved (after previous Slide Show)
PEN markers, so LibreOffice Impress 24.8.1.2 already has the code that does
exactly what is needed. Perhaps, creating a similar command (“Clear all PEN
markings”) when the presentation is opened in Edit mode will do.
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2) Would it make sense to add a toggle that makes “Mouse pointer as pen” in
“Slide Show Settings” either permanent (savable) or temporary?
Some would like to save their PEN markings made during the presentations to
illustrate some point, then share the modified presentation with listeners. In
other cases PEN markings are always temporary, only ruin the slides when
accidentally saved, along with useful corrections to some other slides, during
post-presentation work.
Thank you!
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