https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166020

--- Comment #4 from Michael Weghorn <[email protected]> ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #2)
> For what it is worth, a PDF opened by default into Draw, or with filter
> selection into Writer, can not be read with NVDA SayAll. 
> 
> The structure of an "opened" PDF is a bunch of drawn shapes, text runs are
> done a line at a time into a text box shape per line. So require object
> navigation. 
> 
> So reading requires a screen scrape with mouse cursor, or the awkward use of
> <Tab>, <Enter>, <ESC> cycling to expose the paragraph text in each Draw
> object.
> 
> <Tab> moves between the draw objects
> <Enter> toggles into the text mode for the draw shape object
> <Esc> toggles back to object navigation
> <Tab> moves to next draw shape.
> 
> Screen scraping is much more fluid.
> 
> And either method requires you use the PdgDn, PgUp to move between pages of
> the document.

Indeed, and in a quick test of mine, the text of shapes is read fine by JAWS
when navigating between the text shapes using the Tab key. (JAWS says something
like "text frame, text frame shape <number>, <actual text>" when one of the
shapes receives focus. (Tested using the default import into Draw)

@Simon: Does that work for you as well?

> But for a PDF, wouldn't the free Adobe Reader be a better choice?

That indeed sounds like the more "natural" choice to me as well to read an
existing PDF file.

@Simon: Can you explain what's the reason/use case for using LibreOffice for
reading the PDF file instead of a PDF reader?

Version: 25.8.0.0.alpha0+ (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: b7e6e0f150a669aa191b16655e6e03d60946c416
CPU threads: 12; OS: Windows 11 X86_64 (build 26100); UI render: default; VCL:
win
Locale: en-US (en_DE); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded

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