https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165649

--- Comment #7 from [email protected] ---
(In reply to Buovjaga from comment #6)
> (In reply to general.email.12341234 from comment #5)
> > You could have closed this bug without disrespecting me but you have
> > disrespected me. I will disrespect you too.
> 
> Your attitude was insulting to the good work m_a_riosv does here every day
> without compensation. My response could be seen as a manifestation of one of
> the fundamental laws of this universe.
>

Can you please tell me which fundamental law of universe are you referring to?

I think that your attitude was insulting to me by asking me for more time. You
don't realize that it is a favor to the software developers that someone is
taking the effort of creating a bug tracker account and posting the bug. Many
people don't even bother to report the bugs. You people don't realize that it
is an opportunity for you guys to make your software better.

I had clearly mentioned the reproducing steps in my first post. But it looks
like you didn't read it.

I will quote it again from my first post:

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Step 1: I created an empty .docx document using LibreOffice and then I saved
it.
Step 2: Then I filled one ""page"" with text having multiple lines.
Step 3: Then I selected all text (by doing Ctrl-A) and pasted it.
Step 4: Then I saved the file.
Step 5: Went to step 3 again.

This process was going all fine until the document had around 51,200 ""pages""
and its size was around 1.3 MB.

Now, when I copied 51,200 ""pages"" and pasted it, then after around 15
minutes, LibreOffice crashed.
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""""I have found few more issues with LibreOffice but now I have learnt. I
won't report them."""" 

And the users will think that LibreOffice is unstable and hence they won't use
it. Anyways, not many people use LibreOffice as is evident from the market
share of LibreOffice (Only 0.02%).



> > The main problem will all LibreOffice people is that they think that they
> > are the greatest people on this planet. Few years ago I had a discussion
> > with LibreOffice developers also, and they also behaved the same way.
> 
> Or maybe they are just normal people and your unusual attitude is
> incompatible with the normal way people everywhere work in.
>

You think that you guys are normal. I don't think so. I have interacted with
lots of people on the web.

I had reported a bug with a company and they asked for more details and I said
that I don't have time for that and then they didn't say anything.

You can't force me to invest my time into something when I don't want to invest
and then you try to blame me that I am not helping. This attitude simply
doesn't work. This is a very wrong attitude.

It is my decision to report the bug or not and it is my decision to put more
time in it or not. I don't think you understand this.

I never forced you to fix this bug.

Again, I will repeat that I had clearly mentioned how to reproduce this bug.



> > Actually, you should be grateful that I reported the bug. I am not gaining
> > anything if you fix this bug. However, if you don't fix this bug then you
> > are losing because people will think that LibreOffice is unstable and so
> > they won't use it. And that's why your market share is only 0.02% and it is
> > mostly because of high and stupid attitude of LibreOffice people.
> > 
> > Besides, this was a very simple bug to reproduce and you could have
> > reproduced it within half an hour. But you chose to offload your
> > responsibility to me.
> 
> It would have been simple to reproduce, if you attached an example document,
> but you chose to offload the responsibility to others. The fundamental laws
> of this universe must have been at play again.
> 

Which fundamental law of the universe are you referring to?


I had clearly mentioned the reproducing steps in my first post. But it looks
like you didn't read it.

I will quote it again from my first post:

----
Step 1: I created an empty .docx document using LibreOffice and then I saved
it.
Step 2: Then I filled one ""page"" with text having multiple lines.
Step 3: Then I selected all text (by doing Ctrl-A) and pasted it.
Step 4: Then I saved the file.
Step 5: Went to step 3 again.

This process was going all fine until the document had around 51,200 ""pages""
and its size was around 1.3 MB.

Now, when I copied 51,200 ""pages"" and pasted it, then after around 15
minutes, LibreOffice crashed.
----



> > ""You said: Explaining your unusual attitude towards collaboration is of no
> > value here or in any other bug tracker.""
> > 
> > You can tell me that my attitude towards collaboration is of no value here
> > and that's fine. But you can't speak for the world. If you think that the
> > whole world behaves like you then you are wrong.
> > 
> > I have submitted bugs at other places also and told them clearly that I
> > won't collaborate. And no one complained.
> 
> Maybe in those cases your report was complete enough, hard to say without
> seeing them.
> 

As mentioned before, I had only reported the bug and nothing else. This bug
report about LibreOffice was complete with reproducibility steps given.

I had clearly mentioned the reproducing steps in my first post. But it looks
like you didn't read it.

I will quote it again from my first post:

----
Step 1: I created an empty .docx document using LibreOffice and then I saved
it.
Step 2: Then I filled one ""page"" with text having multiple lines.
Step 3: Then I selected all text (by doing Ctrl-A) and pasted it.
Step 4: Then I saved the file.
Step 5: Went to step 3 again.

This process was going all fine until the document had around 51,200 ""pages""
and its size was around 1.3 MB.

Now, when I copied 51,200 ""pages"" and pasted it, then after around 15
minutes, LibreOffice crashed.
----


> > You guys just don't understand the importance that someone actually reported
> > a bug. If someone reported a bug, then it is an opportunity for you to make
> > your software better.
> 
> So you chose to ignore what I just said about our normally nice experience
> with users reporting and collaborating on bugs. If the majority of the
> people reporting bugs were like you, it would be close to impossible to get
> anything done based on the reports, but fortunately that is not the case.

Other users have time and patience. But not all of them. Majority of users
choose not to report at all.

You should be grateful to people who report.

""As you said: We have hundreds of users reporting bugs and collaborating on
solving them just fine.""

Only hundreds? Not thousands? Then this means that either people are not
reporting bugs or LibreOffice is almost close to perfect with very few bugs.

But then the question is that why is LibreOffice's share so so so low - only
0.02%.

Why are people not using LibreOffice when according to LibreOffice people this
is the top most achievement of the open source world?

You guys should learn from Linux kernel developers and testers. Linux is used
in millions/billions of devices and yet these people are very humble. I know
this because I have contributed some patches to the linux kernel and asked them
few questions and also raised my doubts about some decision of theirs. DESPITE
ALL THIS, THEY ARE STILL VERY HUMBLE.

Great people are humble people, not people like you.

Again, I had clearly mentioned the reproducing steps in my first post. But it
looks like you didn't read it.

I will quote it again from my first post:

----
Step 1: I created an empty .docx document using LibreOffice and then I saved
it.
Step 2: Then I filled one ""page"" with text having multiple lines.
Step 3: Then I selected all text (by doing Ctrl-A) and pasted it.
Step 4: Then I saved the file.
Step 5: Went to step 3 again.

This process was going all fine until the document had around 51,200 ""pages""
and its size was around 1.3 MB.

Now, when I copied 51,200 ""pages"" and pasted it, then after around 15
minutes, LibreOffice crashed.
----

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