https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158838
--- Comment #6 from [email protected] --- Okay, I see that “no character style” is an available command to assign to a key. So, yes, that does allow me to use, say, Alt-I for “emphasis,” Alt-B for “strong,” and Alt-N for “no character style.” And when I do assign such keyboard shortcuts, the tooltips for the“A,” “E,” and “S” icons on the styles toolbar will show me the keys assigned. That’s helpful. So that does solve my personal need: I can use the keyboard to apply a style or remove it. And I can do this in a way that’s easy enough to remember. This isn’t the way most users would be familiar with. It doesn’t work the same way as applying and removing the common attributes “italic” and “bold.” It does take a small bit of setup. But it works, and works well. V. Stuart Foote told me as much in Comment 1, and I don’t know why at the time it didn’t seem to work for me. But it does. So my thanks to all. Since LO Writer is meant to be a style-based word processor, we might want to make more obvious to the user how he or she can employ <emphasis> and <strong> as easily as italic and bold. Perhaps a note in the documentation. Perhaps assigning default keyboard shortcuts for <emphasis> and <strong>. But in any case: My problem is solved, and again my thanks to you all. ------------------- Interestingly—and I don’t know whether it’s a problem: Suppose I’ve used the Styles toolbar to assign, say, <emphasis> to a word. When I highlight the word and look under the menu “Format→Text,” I will see that the box for “Italic” is ticked. And unticking that box will visually restore the text to roman. Clicking the “I” icon on the formatting toolbar (or using the Ctrl-I keyboard shortcut) will have the same effect. Nonetheless, the “E” icon on the toolbar will still be grey, and the Styles dialogue will show that the text still bears the <emphasis> style. Or suppose I’ve used Ctrl-I to make a word italic. Clicking the “S” styles icon will apply <strong emphasis> and make the word bold italic. Clicking “A” will remove the style and make the world normal italic again, and clicking “A” again will have no further effect. But clicking “E” and then “A” will restore the word to roman, removing both the style and the italic. Okay, I see that “no character style” is an available command to assign to a key. So, yes, that does allow me to use, say, Alt-I for “emphasis,” Alt-B for “strong,” and Alt-N for “no character style.” And when I do assign such keyboard shortcuts, the tooltips for the“A,” “E,” and “S” icons on the styles toolbar will show me the keys assigned. That’s helpful. So that does solve my personal need: I can use the keyboard to apply a style or remove it. And I can do this in a way that’s easy enough to remember. This isn’t the way most users would be familiar with. It doesn’t work the same way as applying and removing the common attributes “italic” and “bold.” It does take a small bit of setup. But it works, and works well. V. Stuart Foote told me as much in Comment 1, and I don’t know why at the time it didn’t seem to work for me. But it does. So my thanks to all. Since LO Writer is meant to be a style-based word processor, we might want to make more obvious to the user how he or she can employ <emphasis> and <strong> as easily as italic and bold. Perhaps a note in the documentation. Perhaps assigning default keyboard shortcuts for <emphasis> and <strong>. But in any case: My problem is solved, and again my thanks to you all. ------------------- Interestingly—and I don’t know whether it’s a problem: Suppose I’ve used the Styles toolbar to assign, say, <emphasis> to a word. When I highlight the word and look under the menu “Format→Text,” I will see that the box for “Italic” is ticked. And unticking that box will visually restore the text to roman. Clicking the “I” icon on the formatting toolbar (or using the Ctrl-I keyboard shortcut) will have the same effect. Nonetheless, the “E” icon on the toolbar will still be grey, and the Styles dialogue will show that the text still bears the <emphasis> style. Or suppose I’ve used Ctrl-I to make a word italic. Clicking the “S” styles icon will apply <strong emphasis> and make the word bold italic. Clicking “A” will remove the style and make the world normal italic again, and clicking “A” again will have no further effect. But clicking “E” and then “A” will restore the word to roman, removing both the style and the italic. I don’t know what effect these actions have on the underlying coding of the document. But if the underlying coding is inconsistent, giving us a style where we don’t expect it, or vice versa, this could cause issues, especially when a document is transferred to, say, a page-layout program. No? Thank you again. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
