https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65354

--- Comment #8 from Lionel Elie Mamane <[email protected]> ---
(In reply to comment #7)

> However, I don't necessarily think that "slapping a timezone on a
> time-without-date does not make sense, precisely because there is ambiguity
> between winter time and summer time. So the default formatting of a time
> should not include any timezone." The timezone is an indicator of locale on
> the planet, right? Since the time itself (even if it is not associated with
> a specific date) is also location-dependent,  I believe that having the
> timezone shown on just a time should still be a perfectly valid concept.

1) A timezone is not only a location. The same place in the world has
   a different timezone depending on the date.

2) If all you have is a time, and no locale, then which locale would
   you want to slap on that time? It is essentially undefined, it
   could be *any*. The choice of libformula was to put the *local*
   timezone on it, which I find dubious in the first place. And is
   doomed to failure because there are two local timezones: the
   summer one and the winter one.

> So if I say that something occurred at 17:34 EDT,

Yes, but that's only if you know in which timezone it happened. If
all you have is "17:34", as opposed to "17:34 EDT", then slapping
any of EDT, EST, CEST, CET, ... on it makes no sense, because it
is unknown which one it is.

TIMEVALUE() returns (or at least is supposed to return) just a time,
without any timezone information.

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