https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74375
dg1727 <[email protected]> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Severity|normal |enhancement See Also| |https://bugs.freedesktop.or | |g/show_bug.cgi?id=63374, | |https://bugs.freedesktop.or | |g/show_bug.cgi?id=70129 --- Comment #6 from dg1727 <[email protected]> --- Cor, thank you for your very helpful comment. Following the link in it, I found bug 63374, "calc gives no visual clue about enter/edit cell mode". I agree with the submitter of that bug: > Calc mimics the behavior of MS Excel: > start typing into a cell, and you get into 'Enter' mode > (enter/tab/cursor keys commit and step to an other cell), and > F2 activates 'Edit' mode (only enter/tab commit changes). > Excel shows the current state in the status bar > this whole Enter/Edit distinction seems totally wrong to me Thank you for pointing out that pressing F2 during cell editing will switch to Edit mode so that the cursor & editing keys move the text cursor within the cell, instead of moving the cell cursor to other cells. As with the whole fact of having separate Enter and Edit modes in the first place, I think it is too hard for a user to learn this about the F2 key. The mention in Tools > Customize... > Keyboard tab of "F2 - Toggle Edit Mode" is somewhat unlikely for a user to notice. Even if they do notice it, toggling edit mode to "off" will easily be assumed by a user (who doesn't try it, because they assume they know what "Toggle Edit Mode" means) to refer to returning to the state in which there is a black cell-cursor around the cell, and there is no blinking text cursor. The description of F2 in the help is also not easy to find: It's below a whole screenful (on a high-resolution monitor; more than a screenful on a low-res monitor) of navigation keys, and is under the heading "Function Keys," which doesn't say anything to the user about entering or editing data in a cell. Some users use Calc as a mathematical notebook, with extensive text annotation, making the editing of text in a cell a more often desired use of the cursor & editing keys than moving from cell to cell. Users in these cases are typically fine with needing to use Tab, instead of the cursor or editing keys, to move to a different cell once the user has started entering data into the cell. As mentioned in comment 2, Tab (to enable use of cursor keys for cell-to-cell navigation) is generally easier to reach than F2 (to enable use of cursor keys for intra-cell editing). I clarify my proposal to: Add a checkbox, in Tools > Options > LibreOffice Calc > General > "Input settings" group, similar to: "Entry of data into cell starts Enter mode." This could default to enabled for compatibility with Excel. A user browsing through Tools > Options would then wonder what Enter mode is, look up this checkbox in the help, and be enlightened about this feature of Excel. I chose my suggested checkbox text to mention Enter mode, rather than Edit mode, because there is already a checkbox next to it that mentions Edit mode, and I want to give users the hint that Enter mode and Edit mode are different. By the way, I thought I had changed the severity of this bug to "enhancement" at mariosv's request. I'll try it again now. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
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