https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39268
--- Comment #12 from Federico Mena-Quintero <[email protected]> 2012-01-27 09:26:57 PST --- Apologies for dropping the ball on this. I didn't get discouraged; it's just that Life Happened and I didn't get much time to keep working on this :) Thanks for linking to both the July and August parts of the mailing list thread! I wasn't aware of the August part - silly mailman (I'm not subscribed to that list; maybe I should, if I intend to finish this...). I'll try to post a quick summary of the thread: * There is a bug/inconsistency/angst about "old" drawing tools vs. new shapes. Apparently not all of the new ones have the features that one would expect. I don't know the details of this, but it shouldn't interfere with making the drawing workflow simpler. * There is discussion about how to indicate that one is in a certain mode. My point is that you don't really have modes; a tool *is* the mode in which you are in, and that's it. You are either in the selection tool or in a drawing tool, or perhaps in a tweak-the-vertices tool, but each tool doesn't have any sub-modes. We can indicate this very clearly with the mouse cursor: arrow for selection, crosshair for drawing, and maybe a finer shape of arrow for tweaking vertices. * Differences in behavior between the "drawing" programs (Draw, Impress) and the "other" programs (Writer, Calc). To be honest, I haven't used the drawing tools very much in those other programs; I almost always draw something in Draw or Impress and the cut&paste it to the others. I'll need to see how things feel right now and how they would feel if my proposal were implemented. * As for the behavior of the toolbar buttons, the fundamental thing is for the current tool to be *visible* as *selected*, and nothing more. This doesn't happen consistently right now for the sub-shapes that can be accessed with a long click. * I haven't thought very much about the implications of the clicking-on-a-selected-shape-lets-you-add-text behavior. It seems to get in the way when you want to draw overlapping shapes. I haven't studied the code closely enough, but maybe this can be resolved by turning on text insertion on mouse-release, only if the mouse didn't move sinde the mouse-press, or something like that. Again, need to test the behavior more carefully. * Regina had some concerns about increasing the number of clicks when switching among tools. You already have to click on the tool you want to use next, so I don't see how this would increment the clicks needed. (Personally I don't see "number of clicks" as much of a problem; they are only a problem if the program confuses you so that you need to click again to "really" set a mode that you think you were in, but in fact weren't.) -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the assignee for the bug. _______________________________________________ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list [email protected] http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
