https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81168

--- Comment #4 from Jacobo Aragunde PĂ©rez <[email protected]> ---
(In reply to comment #1)
> And what is the effect of not having any names? Do AT (as opposed to
> accessible event listeners) still report the presence of the frame or do
> they use the absence of a name as an unwritten convention for objects that
> don't need to be reported (like empty alt attributes on images in HTML4.x
> and XHTML 1.x)? 
> 

I've checked what Orca does, it says "Frame1 text frame activated" when I focus
it, as you can see the role already tells us we are dealing with a text frame.
I don't think it ignores objects with empty names, as a matter of fact most
objects like paragraphs don't have it.

> Anyway, the current behaviour is that LibreOffice always fills in the
> frame's name (attribute draw:name); when you delete the name and save the
> file, then reopen the frame options, you will find that LibreOffice has
> filled in a name. 
> 

That's right. As additional info, at right click -> description you can enter a
title that will be used as the accessible name of the object, ignoring the name
found at right click -> frame -> options.

> Is there a better way of dealing with this issue than removing the
> placeholder names? I am thinking specifically of prompting the user to
> provide a meaningful name when inserting a frame. This would also be useful
> for many other types of objects.

The description dialog would be a great candidate for this but I fear that
prompting the user for a title every time a frame is inserted would be too
intrusive.

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