https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75518

dg1727 <[email protected]> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|RESOLVED                    |REOPENED
         Resolution|WONTFIX                     |---

--- Comment #2 from dg1727 <[email protected]> ---
There seem to be a few misunderstandings about this enhancement request.  Can
my comments below be considered?:  

(In reply to Jorendc from comment #1)
> (1) We clearly have a menu button by default in the toolbar to export as
> PDF, we do have a menu entry 'export to PDF'. Plus the 'Export to PDF' menu
> entry comes before the 'print' menu entry in 'File'. So if you are
> completely new you'll notice.

Rather than for completely new users, my concern is about the ergonomics for
more experienced users.  Those users might be rapidly switching between other
applications, printing to PDF the same way in application after application;
then they need to make a PDF from LibreOffice and have to "switch gears"
unexpectedly.  (I've been in this situation, which is why I filed this
request.)  The Print dialog can be invoked by shortcuts like Ctrl-P, in which
case the user is likely not to be reminded of the PDF icons in the toolbar or
menu.  

As I noted originally, LibreOffice wouldn't be the first major libre
application to have both (1) a separate "Export to PDF" (or similar) and (2)
[at least on Linux] PDF integration into the main printers list in the File >
Print dialog.  

> (2) In Mac OSX 10.9 the print dialog do have a button on the left bottom of
> the print dialog with 'PDF' on it.

I'm glad this feature is in MacOS X.  I hope the Linux print dialog can also
have a plainly available option for PDF printing, preferably the same way it is
commonly done in Linux applications.  (I assume the Windows print dialog will
easily get the feature along with the Linux dialog.)  

> (3) I can recall in Linux and Windows there is an option in one of the tabs
> 'Print to File'.

Yes, on the Options tab, there is a "Print to File" checkbox.  I think this is
too hard to get at, compared to the PDF virtual printer that's available in
many other Linux applications.  

> So I don't agree having again more buttons/entries for the same thing. I
> think it is already obvious enough. This will only clutter menu's and
> dialogs more.

I don't propose to add anything to any menu for this request, only to the Print
dialog.  Also, the basic change needed for the requested feature is just to add
an entry to the existing printer list; this doesn't involve adding any controls
to the dialog at all.  There will probably also be code required to disable
options that apply only to a physical printer, and to prompt for a folder path
& filename (code already exists that does this when the "Print to File"
checkbox is selected).  

If the requested entry in the printers list is implemented, it would be fine
with me if the "Print to File" checkbox is removed.  

I read somewhere that it isn't preferred to reopen bugs.  If I should make a
new bug with the clarifications above, please let me know.

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