https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76817
--- Comment #24 from [email protected] --- Mistakenly I posted some comments in the "Most Annoying Bugs" (MAB, bug 79641) topic instead of here. Here are those comments, a moderator might delete them from the MAB. ==================================================== (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #72) > (In reply to meneerjansen00 from comment #71) > > I take it then that we do not have to count on (work starting on) a fix for > > this bug to come anytime soon? That will be quite disappointing for a lot of > > LO users I'm afraid... > > Not at all, work on the WW8 import/export filters is continual. For example, > if you follow the samples and discussion of bug 50774 there has been noted > improvement. > I'm afraid I do not see a lot of improvement in that bub. I do see some discussions. But no patch or suggested solution. I'm sorry > Otherwise, concise test cases with annotated comparisons in the XML of OOXML > and ODF rendering of the sample documents will provide needed incentive to > devs for correcting the filters. That as opposed to general statements that > it is "not working". > I'm afraid you lost me there. I'm willing to do anything youy want me to. But I do not understand what y'all would like me to give. Is the example doc not good enough? Can you not reproduce the bug? Please help me to provide you with the proper testing documents. On a side note, the description in bug 76817 comment #3 is crystal clear to me. And very reproducable. I'm afraid I do not know waht the devs would like more. If I would, I'd provide y'all with what you want in the bug report you want. I'd like to help or provide input, but I really do not know how anymore. Bug 76817 commnent #3 is so clear already... > Filing useful bug reports aside, a user can put the onus back on Microsoft > and export from there as ODF (e.g. .odt), rather than OOXML (e.g. .docx). Or > in a more parochial sense work only in LibreOffice rendered ODF--that is > what LibreOffice as a project is obliged to support. In this hard dog eat dog worl I'm afraid the smaller fish has to accept that the bigger fish is boss. Same thing goed for LaTeX (www.latex-project.org) and any other way to produce documents. Best regards, Jansen =========================================== ========================================== @V Stuart Foote I'm gonna have to read up on the Office Open XML (OOXML) format/file type (which, confusingly to me, is called .docx in LO), the native Word 2007 (and higher Word versions) file format (also called .docx) and ye 'ol .doc format. This is not to be confused w/ the 'open document file' (ODF) format which, I believe, has been used by Libre- and OpenOffice since a long time. Documents in the ODT format have the extension .odT (with the T from Text, not the D for document) which is also confusing to me (I thought that native LO and 'ye 'ol OOo documents ndend in .odF). I found a nice article about this: https://brattahlid.wordpress.com/2012/05/08/is-docx-really-an-open-standard/ Sorry for all this off topic stuff by me that really belongs in a chat or support forum. I'm getting old. Back in the days there was only M$ Word (i.e. .doc) and OpenOffice (which I thought saved in the .odf extension). As for now, what I did to create a document that my Word loving friends can read, edit and save is: 1. Open Libre Office. 2. Create new Writer document. 3. Write some text. 4. Choose: File > Save as > Microsoft Word 97/2000/XP/2003 (.doc). FYI: I used to choose .doc because I thought that .docx was less well supported in OOo/LO... 5. Or I choose: File > Save as > Microsoft Word 2007/2010/2013 XML (.docx) I never even noticed that in LO there's also an option way down at the bottom called "Office Open XML (.docx)". Until today I've never heard of this format. Until today I really couldn't give a rats *ss 'bout M$'s fiddling w/ .doc and .docx format. I just don't care. If people want to use proprietary software and operating systems that's their problem, not mine. Boy was I wrong! I'll try to create an .docx LO (that is Office Open XML, not Microsoft .docx!) document and I'll test if the outline numbering probelm is also there. As for me the question remains how MS Word 2007+ handles OOXML .docx files that were created by LO. Does it leave LO's .docx format intact or not? And how does LO handle M$ created .docx files, does the outline numbering bug appear of doesn't it? To be continued. Hope y'all will forgive me all the confusion I might have created and the overly long comments that posted here. One is never to old to learn. :-) ============================================= ========================================= 1. Reading the blog that I mentioned earlier is highly recommended for all people who have ever used MS Office '97 to 2003! See: https://brattahlid.wordpress.com/2012/05/08/is-docx-really-an-open-standard It clarifies why there are two ways of saving a document as .docX! 2. Tried to reproduce the bug by making a document in LO and saving it in Office Open OOXML format (i.e. NOT MS's version of OOXML/docX!). 3. Bug still there. 4. When one saves the document in LO's native open document format (ODF, confusingly ending in .odT) bug is not there. Conclusion: the bug does not have anything to do with Microsoft's crappy implementation of the OOXML standard. The bug has to do w/ the way Libre Office generates a document in the the OPEN document standard OOXML (confusingly also called .docx, not LO's fault, see aforementioned blog). This bug, strangely enough, probably has nothing to do w/. Microsoft! =========================================== =============================================== Created attachment 116900 [details] Two documets made w/ LO in OOXML format and re-saved as... Two test documents. Both made in LO. One is saved as OOXML (LO's version of OOXML, not MS's version!). The other was made in LO, saved as OOXML (it had the bug) and after that saved as .odT which only made the bug disappear after reapplying ALL outline numbered styles. So using .odt as an intermediate when ou receive a Word doc will not work. ============================================ ========================================================= -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
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