https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95402
--- Comment #7 from Octavio Alvarez <[email protected]> --- (In reply to Yousuf (Jay) Philips from comment #5) > > The icon is *the most important change* among all that I suggested becuase, > > as I said on IRC: it currently sends a wrong visual message. > > I'm assuming you mean it sends the wrong visual message without the icon. Yes. It sends the message of 'choose a template to save over'. It gives no visual cues whatsoever that saving as a new template is possible at all. > > Bear me with this thought: It gave me a choice of templates and I had a > > 'Save' button. I don't want to save it to any of those. By having a choice > > of templates I expect to click on one of those and then clicking 'Save' to > > perform my will. > > That is quite opposite to the universal workflow of saving anything. When > you open the Save or Save As dialog, the primary thing is to select a folder > if neede, which may have existing files in it, and then type a new file name. I'd like to be more precise: when opening a Save As dialog, the primary thing is to select a *target file*, not a location. Choosing a location is just a requirement. The current screen only gives visual cues for choosing existing files, not a new one. It doesn't give visual cues of location. > > I can't predict what the 'Save' button does before clicking it (a priori). > > It currently turns out that clicking 'Save' actually asks for something. > > This is completely opposite to the currently existing, universal workflow > > of saving *anything*. > > Yes as there isnt a filename field to type in the template name, a dialog > appears after clicking the 'Save' button. This isnt that outside of the norm > that it would confuse users. I didn't get the last sentence, sorry. But if I understand correctly, what you say is also correct. As an alternative to the 'Save as new template' icon, there could be --instead-- a text field for choosing a new name *before* clicking 'Save'. > > At least, when a new 'Save as new template' icon is introduced as one of > > the options, it will visually guide me to click on it because that's what I > > want to do and then think 'Ok, I selected something, now I must find a > > button to perform the save'. > > I find this quite confusing that if i wanted to save something, i would have > to preselect an item already in the list of file/template names and then > click a Save button. Maybe the simplest thing is to do would be to change > the 'Save' button to 'Save Template Here'. The simplest thing is to use a simple 'Save As' dialog. That's it. With the 'Save as new template' icon, yes, you would have to preselect an item already in the list (but there is now a cue to know what to do to save a new template). Renaming the button to 'Save template here' is still confusing if there are no visual cues. When given a choice of already existing templates and a 'Save template here', I feel like I *must* choose one of the templates before clicking the button, which leads to overwriting. The window does not cue that is giving the choice of location; the icons are the most prominent. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
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