https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67576

--- Comment #13 from KDM <[email protected]> ---
(In reply to tmacalp from comment #10)
> I'm reopening this bug because I think the current behavior is unacceptably
> ambiguous and confusing.  Please let me know if I need to just open a new
> report, instead.
> 
> To define the current behavior, users are allowed to change the basic print
> setting, paper size, in the print dialog.  This setting is then completely
> ignored unless the user selects the infrequently used "Options" tab and
> enables the ambiguously worded setting, "Use only paper size from print
> preferences."  
> 
> I have the following issues with this behavior:
> 
> * The interface should be honest.  A user should expect that if they've
> taken the time to manually specify a paper size, that setting should be
> passed to the printer.
> 
> My recommendation for this particular issue is to either...
> 1. Add an entry "Automatic (by page format)" to the top of the paper size
> list and make that the default.
> I think this is the most elegant solution.  It will be obvious to users that
> page size is being handled for them.  If someone manually changes their
> paper size from this automatic setting, we should actually honor it.  We can
> then remove "Use only paper size from print preferences" from the options
> tab.
> 
> 2. Gray-out the Paper size drop-down.
> If the intended behavior is to not use that field, we should make it
> obvious.  Graying-out the drop-down lets users know that it's not being
> used.  Unfortunately, this might cause other complications.  In special
> cases, like brochure printing, the page size IS honored.  Well, brochure
> printing currently ignores your page size the first try, but I recently
> reported bug 81065 on that issue.  Basically, a user would have to either
> enable brochure printing before selecting a different paper size or they
> would have to first check the setting that enables the override.
> 
> 
> * The setting "Use only paper size from print preferences" is far away from
> the field that it modifies.  If checking this box is required for the paper
> size drop-down to do anything, it should be adjacent to the drop-down.  I
> would suggest putting the toggle right above Paper size on the "Paper" tab
> of Properties.  I know this is prime real estate and probably would require
> the UX Committee's input, but I think it'd be worth it, we're keeping the
> current behavior.
> 
> 
> * "Use only paper size from print preferences" is worded in a way that means
> nothing to me.  I've seen this option many times, but incorrectly
> interpreted it.  It should be changed to something like "Allow print dialog
> to change paper size."
> 
> 
> * There is no way to set a default policy for LO, through settings.  I would
> expect this to be a setting found under Tools -> Options -> Writer -> Print,
> under the "Other" section.  This is where the option "Paper tray from
> printer selection" exists already.
> 
> 
> This also opens up the discussion for what Writer should actually do with
> the request for larger/smaller paper than is set up with the page format. 
> Draw, Impress, and Calc all have ways to scale print jobs to fit different
> sized paper using "Fit to Width" or "Fit to page" options.  Writer should
> have the same ability.  Of course, this will need to be reported elsewhere
> as an enhancement request.

Thank You. Excellent summary of the issue. I agree with your first suggestion.

-- 
You are receiving this mail because:
You are the assignee for the bug.
_______________________________________________
Libreoffice-bugs mailing list
[email protected]
http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs

Reply via email to